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To: Iscool
I have met Richard Perle,Wolfie, and worked in Ronald Reagan's/Cap Weinberger's Pentagon. These are serious people looking to improve the world via freedom. They can play the game of golf but choose to play a different game. I find your criticism to be unfounded. This neocon label really should go away. I'm surprised at your apparent insight into what might be anathema to the founders. Perhaps you could elucidate further on why this might be true. The four people I mentioned are not about removing freedom, American Style, from anyone. In fact it would be quite the contrary.

They are not self appointed and have earned the privelege to have an opinion about the way forward. Mind you, it is only an opinion. They do not control the levers of executive action (except for RR) but rather have played a role in shaping the opinion for a final decision by the Chief Executive. I have personally witnessed Geo. Schultz (RR's SecState) trump Cap Weinberger on policy issues. Even now Colin Powell stands in counterpoint to Rumsfield. There are no existing hegomonies in the executive branch, nor in the legislative branch. The judiciary seems to be in a quandary, a quagmire of dissent, one might say.

What alternative to the current process would you advocate?

5 posted on 05/04/2003 8:14:21 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Movemout
As the article states, (The neocons care little about domestic policy; they think globally) this group cares little if at all about the future of the United States, as a sovereign nation outside of Washington D.C...

Although I support the war on terrorism outside of the United States, I believe the Homeland Security initiative is a total farce...And I suspect this group was influential in that mess also...

What can I say? I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican...

11 posted on 05/04/2003 8:51:32 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Movemout
"These are serious people looking to improve the world via freedom. They can play the game of golf but choose to play a different game. I find"

If this is true, why are they passing laws that restrict our freedoms and liberties? These people, as with all politicians, are duplicitous. On the one hand, they cite ONE of the reasons for invading Iraq was to "free" the Iraqi people. yet they give their own people "patriot 1 & possibly "patriot 2" along with "homeland" ( sounds european). They do it in the name of a false "security" and the majority of the American people have bought into the lie.

IMO, clauses 5a,b & c, Section 802 of the "patriot" act will the legal justification to stop dissent against the NWO in the future. Keep in mind, Section 802 is the ONLY section that has NO four year expiration date as does the rest of the act!

Don't people realize that the Writ of Habeous Corpus has been rescinded if you are "suspected" of being a terrorist?

These neos are using a magicians trick of mis-direction, which is to say, they have us concentrating on a "police action", which they call a war, while they pass new laws against us. They are using the Constitution as toilet paper.

FTR, I am against big government which is what the neos are giving us. Intrusion into our lives is unacceptable whether it's done by an R, D or Neocon.

FReegards


21 posted on 05/04/2003 9:26:10 AM PDT by poet
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To: Movemout
These are serious people looking to improve the world via freedom.

Thanks for your insight. Sign me up.

47 posted on 05/04/2003 7:03:39 PM PDT by PGalt
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