[Savage Beast]

"the disjunction between religious and secular aspects of life in the west, and its openness to debate, ...questioning and change is precisely what traditional Islam lacks."

And this is one of the most important things the West has to offer the world.

[Destro]

The Islamics got the technical aspects of Greek civilization but never understood the rest of it. And as the Islamists kille doff or converted away the Greeks within the Islamic world their was a direct decline in Arabic civilization.