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Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve
NSF ^ | May 8, 2003 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2003 10:11:06 AM PDT by Nebullis

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1 posted on 05/08/2003 10:11:07 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: *crevo_list
For all the irreducible complexity fans.
2 posted on 05/08/2003 10:11:56 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Nebullis
Anyone can sell their soul to get results out of the ordinary; this is nonsense.

Next this person is going to start using statistics, a "science" long since disproven. Just ignore them.
3 posted on 05/08/2003 10:13:42 AM PDT by AmericanAge
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To: Nebullis
Ohhhh! Thread flambe.
4 posted on 05/08/2003 10:14:38 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Nebullis
Perhaps someone will someday explain how to use ping lists.
5 posted on 05/08/2003 10:17:04 AM PDT by js1138
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To: PatrickHenry
ping the old bulldogs list.
6 posted on 05/08/2003 10:18:56 AM PDT by stanz
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To: Nebullis
If ya can't find the fossils, rig a computer program to "prove" your theory.
7 posted on 05/08/2003 10:19:10 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Nebullis
Arificial life explains evolution?

Life begets life

Artificial life begets artificial life

Artificail Life begets artificail evolution

Here's Evolution in the making.


8 posted on 05/08/2003 10:20:43 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: js1138; Junior
Junior has a good list.
9 posted on 05/08/2003 10:20:49 AM PDT by Nebullis
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It sounds like these *INTELLIGENT* people *DESIGNED* themselves a really nice experiment in a tightly controlled environment.

Semper Fi

10 posted on 05/08/2003 10:21:37 AM PDT by dd5339 (Lookout Texas, here we come!)
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To: Nebullis
Interesting that this is a biological theory which they only seem to be able to demonstrate or produce on computer simulations.
11 posted on 05/08/2003 10:23:58 AM PDT by martianagent
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To: Nebullis
The abstract:

The evolutionary origin of complex features

RE Lenski, C Ofria, RT Pennock, C Adami

A long-standing challenge to evolutionary theory has been whether it can explain the origin of complex organismal features. We examined this issue using digital organisms—computer programs that self-replicate, mutate, compete and evolve. Populations of digital organisms often evolved the ability to perform complex logic functions requiring the coordinated execution of many genomic instructions. Complex functions evolved by building on simpler functions that had evolved earlier, provided that these were also selectively favoured. However, no particular intermediate stage was essential for evolving complex functions. The first genotypes able to perform complex functions differed from their non-performing parents by only one or two mutations, but differed from the ancestor by many mutations that were also crucial to the new functions. In some cases, mutations that were deleterious when they appeared served as stepping-stones in the evolution of complex features. These findings show how complex functions can originate by random mutation and natural selection.

12 posted on 05/08/2003 10:24:21 AM PDT by Nebullis
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Interesting that this is a biological theory which they only seem to be able to demonstrate or produce on computer simulations.

Perhaps you know of a way to go back in time or speed up the reproduction of organisms?

13 posted on 05/08/2003 10:26:00 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Cedric
If ya can't find the fossils, rig a computer program to "prove" your theory.

You will eventually have to explain how a rigged program can design new and useful things that have not been foreseen by humans. It has already happened. A computer program using the technique described in this article has already designed a new, useful and patented electronic circuit.

This ain't a game anymore. And this is just the first few baby steps.

14 posted on 05/08/2003 10:27:20 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Nebullis
Your post is too humorous for words.

Amazing to what lengths athesits, oops evolutionists will go to to bolster their ridiculous theory. Something as sophisticated as the human body, didn't evolve out of nothing. Nothing comes from nothing. That is just OBVIOUS common sense for those who use their God given brains.

15 posted on 05/08/2003 10:29:23 AM PDT by nmh
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To: Nebullis
mr ...

There is a sub-set of lunatic loons who appear to wish the end of American society as we know it. Like the Nazis and the communists in Weimar Germany, they have a great deal in common as ... potential destroyers --- of the social fabric.

I have engaged in several debates in the last few days, and I admire FreeRepublic as a forum for the free expression of ideas, but the overwhelming presence of this bunch of loons is very off-putting.

Lenin is supposed to have said that capitalists would sell him the rope by which they were to be hung. The “anarcho-loons” on this forum would not bother to sell the rope but provide it as a public service.

401 posted on 05/06/2003 5:54 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)

16 posted on 05/08/2003 10:29:30 AM PDT by f.Christian (( Marching orders: comfort the afflicted // afflict the comfortable ! ! ))
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To: Nebullis
Artificial life is not LIFE.
Evolution is a discredited religion.
Unfortunately, its adherents refuse to give up their faith.

17 posted on 05/08/2003 10:29:35 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: nmh
Amen! Nothing comes from nothing.

Except God.
19 posted on 05/08/2003 10:31:20 AM PDT by AmericanAge
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To: dd5339
It sounds like these *INTELLIGENT* people *DESIGNED* themselves a really nice experiment in a tightly controlled environment.

I usually don't get involved in these threads, but that was my first thought. From a distant lens, they've done the following:

1. Created the world.
2. Created the rules.
3. Created the initial organisms.
4. Kickstarted execution.
5. Prompted evolution by introducing mutation external to the organisms.
6. Set the organisms loose on each other.

I played this game in the early '90's - it was called Unnatural Selection. Cool game.

20 posted on 05/08/2003 10:31:56 AM PDT by vollmond (And I don't even do drugs!)
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