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MAILER BLASTS BACK AT COMIC
NY Post: Page Six ^
| Richard Johnson
Posted on 05/09/2003 7:56:06 AM PDT by Pharmboy
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:13:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Steve_Seattle
Still like Vonnegut.
To: kabar
Such a pity... I was a great admirer of Vonnegut in my liberal teenage years. However, the more I read his books, the more I began to view them as simply novel-length rants-- with Breakfast of Champions being exhibit A.
A few of his books, like Player Piano, Cat's Cradle and Galapagos raise interesting philosophical points, although something like Player Piano is certainly an obsolete philosophical point in the wake of the tech revolution in this country (there aren't fewer jobs with automation... there's more).
All in all, when a liberal writer like this makes 'predictions' he gets it wrong from the start. All the hellish 'utopias' predicted by liberal writers in the 60's come with a centralized 'overseer' running it. Writing about this, you'd think they'd be against a centralized state, especially when viewing how all their predictions for the 'bad' future come true on the causative end, but bear fruit on the effects end simply because the wide scope of American experience and ingenuity can make a buck off anything.
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posted on
05/09/2003 8:50:20 AM PDT
by
Goodlife
To: Billthedrill
More and more, I see the liberal/conservative rift as a conflict between the romantic and the classical temperaments. The romantic idealizes nature, the individual, emotion, spontaneity, and extravagence, whereas the classical temperament favors reason, moderation, proportion, and the rule of law. But ironically, when the romantic temperament gains political power, it uses a legalistic iron fist to impose its way and to crush individuality.
To: Steve_Seattle
Natalie Maines did the same thing - made a cheap shot in England to please her audience, to get applause, to make sure she would stand apart and be free of association from Bush or "those other Americans", so she could get audience approval.
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posted on
05/09/2003 9:01:46 AM PDT
by
SarahW
To: kabar
I wouldn't say that Mailer has written "a few dozen distinguished books." I'd say he's written two or three good books, including "The Naked and the Dead" and "Armies of the Night"; a few dozen forgetable, second- and third-rate books, and one of the worst novels of the 20th century: "Ancient Egypt."
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posted on
05/09/2003 9:12:04 AM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: mabelkitty
I've read most of his books (including his picture book on Marilyn Monroe which is really beautiful-looking)and I say he has a very heterosexual point of view. He's not unlike Hemingway who is also predictably called gay on the basis of nothing except that, like Mailer, he enjoyed punching other men at parties. Not all men who hurt women are gay; that's a cliche.
I can't believe I'm defending old Normie!
To: Pharmboy
Even though I can't stand the old queen, Burr was entertaining. I've seen it, but it never piqued my interest.
To: Billthedrill
Excellent Rant!! Congrats, you nailed it.
To: Pharmboy
Mailer and Vidal are examples of the New York elite that Algore ascribes and the clintoons suck up to? Yuck!
To: Billthedrill
Thanks for posting those comments, you exceed simple
invective.
I just finished a book by Jacques Barzun, named "From
Dawn To Decadence". Your comments reminded me of some
his his observations of the last century.
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Sean Connery is gay? - News to me. You sure?
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posted on
05/09/2003 9:27:37 AM PDT
by
tpaine
(Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
To: kabar
Norman, middle name Kingsly, was drafted in mid 1944 while waiting out the war at Harvard, where he boxed in the oh so rugged inter dorm boxing matches. He was sent to Luzon late in the war and was cook, clerk and a lineman and recieved no metals and didn't distinguish himself.
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posted on
05/09/2003 9:29:00 AM PDT
by
Leisler
(Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard!)
To: miss marmelstein
Reread my post.
I said his frugging with a model doesn't mean he's hetero.
I said he was a mysoginist.
To: Billthedrill
Dead on and eloquently stated. You've made my morning. Thanks.
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posted on
05/09/2003 9:35:20 AM PDT
by
MattAMiller
(Iraq was liberated in my name, how about yours?)
To: Billthedrill; RJayneJ
I second Pharmboy's nomination for QOTD. Another LBG (Long-but-good) for you, RJJ!
Bill, I wasn't surprised to see your name on the end of this classic diatribe. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Damn, but you're good!
To: tpaine
I had read that somewhere years ago, and now I am trying to find a source of some sort, but can't. So I could be wrong.
To: Pharmboy
Miller is way cool. His best comments were left out of this liberal kiss up piece, but they're still on the record...
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posted on
05/09/2003 11:05:16 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
To: an amused spectator
Too bad Vonnegut can't write as well as Kilgore Trout.
To: skeeter
Yes, communists were very much in support of WW2, after the Soviet Union was attacked.
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posted on
05/09/2003 12:15:18 PM PDT
by
Defiant
(Time to get syrias about terror.)
To: stands2reason
Thanks for the nomination! };^D )
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posted on
05/09/2003 12:33:24 PM PDT
by
RJayneJ
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