[mr.pink]

IMHO, the degree of adversarialism that exists today between law enforcement and American citizens, and the militarization of law enforcemnt agencies, are the lasting and still evolving legacies of both Bill Clinton and Rudy Guiliani.

[Ten Megaton Solution]

IMHO, the degree of adversarialism that exists today between law enforcement and American citizens, and the militarization of law enforcemnt agencies, are the lasting and still evolving legacies of both Bill Clinton and Rudy Guiliani.

Ruby Ridge was a Bush game.

The Us v Them attitude has existed since at least the sixties, read The Blue Knight or The Choirboys</> by Joseph Wambaugh.