[JesseHousman]

...15 billion of OUR dollars!...

You're wrong there, Ricpic.

They ceased being our dollars after we were mugged by the vaious and sundry taxing authorities and our money taken from us.

That's all goobermint money. What you are left with after the mugging is yours.

[Jason_b]

It ceased being our money before that. It was our money when money was not debt. That was when dollars were silver disks and gold disks and fractional dollars were smaller disks, quarters, dimes, 1964 and before. These were of a positive nature. People who had it owned it.

All money is now debt lent to us and the government by the Federal Reserve System central bank. It is of a negative nature. Debt by definition belongs to the creditor even when it passes hands as money. The people lost control of their government when the government no longer needed the peoples real money to function, and could borrow debt forever from the central bank to do what it wants.