Posted on 06/19/2003 9:30:09 AM PDT by uplandgame
The indictment charges Milosevic with 'genocide', 'ethnic cleansing' on a scale comparable to Hitler. That makes it completly FALSE ! Not one of the 'tribunal' 130+ prosecution 'witnesses' has even come close to making the case.
You surly must know that command resposibility has not been established. To say it has, is wishfull thinking on your part, because it has not. It's ignorant on your part to prejudge the ' trial' while it is still in the 'prosecution'stage.
The only place Milosevic is going to walk will be in the exercise yard
Under guard, he is walking everyday for the last 1 1/2 years. Hitler and you are getting your revenge on the Serbs, that's where it is now. You may have power but not the truth, and truth always wins out.
An end to the specious defences of Milosevic and his actions - you've pretty much conceded the point on the command responsibility issue, DEI.
This is not about Milosevic and I think you know that. The trial will define 'what' history was and is in the balkans. The 'Kriegsschuldfrage' will be answered accordingly to the outcome of the trial. And the outcome of the trial was already determined long ago at the Pentagon, the White House, the State Departement, you name it.
Perhaps we can move on to other things, like figuring out how to rebuild the Serbian economy and integrating it into Europe.
That would be nice for a change, and as there's no end of opportunities for rancorous disagreement when it comes to economics, we could maintain our usual relationship while arguing about how to construct a better future rather than apportioning blame for a disasterous past.
Hoplite, it is my strong believe that there can't be economic, political progress and prosperity for Serbia as long as the occupation continues and the Serbs west of the Drina are denied their right to self-determination and their right to join Serbia for a new and democratic Serbian Federation. First things first. As long as you oppose this goal, for whatever reason, we will be in fundamental disagreement.
So yes, Serbia is going to go down in the history books as the bete noire of the Balkans in the 1990's - but that outcome was determined by the Serbs themselves in places like Vukovar, Srebrenica, and Racak - not in the Pentagon.
It's time for you to accept some responsibility for what Milosevic did in your name, DEI.
As to the Serbs outside of Serbia, they made their choices, and have forfeited the chance to attempt the same for at least a generation. If they still feel like joining Serbia is in their best interst in 50 years or so, and they can convince the countries they live in that it is in their best interest to go, then there is a chance they may succeed.
But I will tell you this, DEI, any attempts to change international borders through use of force will result in more of the same of what happened in the 1990's. It didn't work this time around, and it won't work in the future.
Find someone else's time to waste.
So yes, Serbia is going to go down in the history books as the bete noire of the Balkans in the 1990's - but that outcome was determined by the Serbs themselves in places like Vukovar, Srebrenica, and Racak - not in the Pentagon.
The outcome was predetermined by the 'great powers' and there will be a lot of 'revisionist' history. Unfortunately for you, I guess, but there will allways be people seeking the truth and not the Hague's version of history.
As to the Serbs outside of Serbia, they made their choices, and have forfeited the chance to attempt the same for at least a generation. If they still feel like joining Serbia is in their best interst in 50 years or so, and they can convince the countries they live in that it is in their best interest to go, then there is a chance they may succeed.
But I will tell you this, DEI, any attempts to change international borders through use of force will result in more of the same of what happened in the 1990's. It didn't work this time around, and it won't work in the future.
You miss the big picture here and I assume you do so intentionally. The first attempt to change international borders through use of force was made by the violent secession of Croatia and Bosnia, assisted by outside recognition (aggression through recognition). Only after this, the Serbs proclaimed their own secession from these illegal statelets and I repeat, they did so in response. Why do you say the Serbs should try to insist on their right to self-determination 50 years later on? What will change in 50 years? Why wasn't it possible for Croatia and Bosnia to let the Serbs go, in the same way it was possible for Yugoslavia to let Slovenia and Macedonia go? So the Serbs can exercise their right to self-determination in 50 years, why couldn't they have done that at the begining of the 1990's? That would have prevented a lot off bloodshed. But hell no, Germany and the US didn't like it? Why should the Serbs convince anyone to grant them their rights they have fought and died for, for decades and centuries? Should they ask the Neo-Ustasa's in Zagreb and the Islamofascists in Sarajevo for permission? My a$$!
But I will tell you this, DEI, any attempts to change international borders through use of force will result in more of the same of what happened in the 1990's. It didn't work this time around, and it won't work in the future.
It did work for the Ustasas and Islamofascists and this is the hypocrisy and the doublestandard I will never accept, no matter what your history books will tell.
The above is from one of your 'prosecution' witnesses at the Hague! The trial you wanted and now can't defend.
In all due respect, the trial is showing overwelmingly that Milosevic is not guilty of anything except being one of the most exceptional leader of the century. Live with it.
Thanks, but I think I'll pass.
Witness "K6" at the Milosevic Hearings made it very clear that the KLA leadership (Thaci, Selim, Mustafa, et. al) carried out a widespread campaign of murdering Albanians.
Witness 'K6' is/was a KLA member who described in detail numerous KLA killing expeditions against Albanians.
The KLA killed Albanians
15yr later ping on a day I will never forget! March 24, 1999....NATO along with the Klintons start a 78 day immoral and illegal war on Serbia
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Can you please ping your list, thanks A
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