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Government needs to stay the hell out of the bedroom

That's not exactly an earth-shattering concept.

It pains me to see how many people on this thread *think* they are for smaller Govt but disagree with the ruling.

It pains me to see how many people on this thread *think* they are for smaller Govt but disagree with the ruling.

The truth is exactly the opposite. Look at the 'health care costs' in the city of Sin Freaksicko. Much of the public health costs in that city are driven by gays. It's a public health issue.

So giving unelected federal judges the power to write state law is decreasing the size of government?

There are actually some restrictions on liberty that enhance liberty overall.

Think of it like this. Traffic laws restrict your liberty. They require you to stop at red lights, drive on the right side of the yellow line, etc. However, they actually enhance your liberty to travel. How far would you get if all the traffic laws were repealed, and people were "liberated" to drive on whichever side of the road they wished, to ignore red lights and stop signs, to park wherever they wished?

Laws which keep homosexuality in the closet do, technically, restrict the liberty of the few people wishing to engage in that disgusting behavior. But they enhance the overall liberty of society. Because uncloseted homosexuality goes on a rampage against the liberty of the general populace.

It starts with disease. Homosexual acts are far more likely to transmit disease than heterosexual acts. So the bathhouse culture that arises when homosexual conduct is legalized and tolerated triggers a sharp increase in AIDS and other STDs. The result? Billions more in tax dollars is siphoned out of our pockets to pay medical bills, and taxation is itself a restriction on liberty.

Next, uncloseted homosexuals demand that opposition to or even disapproval of their conduct be suppressed. So we get speech codes telling us what we can and can't say. We get called a bigot if we fail to take our small children to Disneyworld on "Gay Day". We get governmental decrees ordering schools to teach your kids that homosexuality is normal, and if your religion teaches otherwise, well then, it's "bigoted". We get more and more laws dicatating who people can hire, who they can rent an apartment to, etc. It'll soon be a federal crime to refuse to rent to a pair of drag queens carrying whips and chains. In California, they're about to pass a law requiring employers to hire cross-dressers.

To satisfy the gay lobby, we came within one Supreme Court vote of completely losing our freedom of association (the Boy Scout case) and the pro-gay forces are determined to overturn that ruling just as they did the Hardwick ruling today.

So in return for a few perverts being able to freely engage in their sickness, we, as a people, see a decrease in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, property rights, monetary rights, and state's rights.

We'll soon be like Sweden, where even ministers can be jailed for up to four years for saying that homosexuality is wrong in the pulpit of their own church.

The gay movement is not libertarian, and neither is the pro-abortion movement, though both present themselves as such when manipulating the libertarian crowd.

It pains me to see how many people on this thread *think* they are for smaller Govt but disagree with the ruling.

It's not inconsistent to want a smaller federal government, while also wanting to retain the power of state governments to make such laws, not to make them, or recind any they now have. They always have made them, including before the federal government was created.