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To: Friend of thunder; azhenfud
Restoring the Republic is within our means and need not include secession, IMO. I believe our brothers on FR have pointed to the Free State Project as an alternative. The Founders, New Englanders, Westerners, Southerners, and even Lincoln recognized the right of secession. There are many written and spoken examples in America's history.

However, please don't confuse "viable option" with a hasty call for secession.

51 posted on 07/01/2003 9:31:08 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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52 posted on 07/01/2003 9:32:42 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner; azhenfud
Secession would, certainly, be a huge step. I live in Seattle and have Jim Mcdermott, Patty Murray and, Maria Cantwell representing me, along with a rather whacked out city and county council; for the most part I think things would be worse if this state were to “dissolve the Political Bands which have connected” us to the rest of the country. Whether secession is a right is really a moot point, it would be – as I am sure are aware – resisted by the federal government.

Whether or not it was treason is hard to say. One could argue that it included “levying War against” the United States (or at least some of them). But since charges were never brought one could also argue that treason did not take place.

I have to admit – and I realize that this is not totally fair – that, perhaps because I am a Northerner, I have real trouble separating secession and slavery. I realize it is much more complex then that but that is my gut reaction; it is really difficult for me to see the secession of the Confederacy without seeing slavery.

80 posted on 07/01/2003 4:35:01 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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