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It is important to be aware of the efforts of vegetarian activists and what they are plotting to force on the rest of us. I suspect that the discussion of a ban on hallal and kosher slaughter is a wedge issue that they are attempting to use to "push the peanut forward," in much the same way that the gun-banners did with so-called "assault weapons."

It is unfortunate that Gov. Pataki gave them the ammunition they needed to make a consistent case for a ban on meat-eating in the state - that just goes to show you what happens when government overreaches its constitutional limits.

Also note that this author makes reference to Peter Singer, the infamous proponent of infanticide of disabled newborns, and states that "the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee."

These are the kind of people who want to weild government force against you and your family. Think about it.

1 posted on 07/06/2003 11:29:00 AM PDT by mvpel
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Let's all become cannibals and eat Vegans.

--Boris

2 posted on 07/06/2003 11:33:19 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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about the health disadvantages of carnivorism

Why oh why do these veggie fundies keep on referring to the rest of us normal folk as 'carnivores'? I love meat, but an average meal consists of at least an equal amount of vegetable matter.

Are these weirdos so ili-educated that they don't know what 'omnivore' means?

3 posted on 07/06/2003 11:35:34 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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"It is important to be aware of the efforts of vegetarian activists and what they are plotting to force on the rest of us"

Fortunately, this is a much harder battle. Second hand smoke has long been an annoyance to those of us who didn't smoke. And in many buildings the level of smoke in the air truly was a health hazard.

There is no such concern as "second hand meat". There is not even a health issue, since people who don't eat red meat tend to become anemic unless they take supplements. And vegetarians die younger than meat eaters.

Therefore they will have to win their battle either along idealogical lines, which I don't see happening. Except for the warning in scripture that in the last days men will say not to eat meat.

Or they will have to pitch an economic argument such as a cow only feeds 1 person, but 20 people could eat the grain that the cow consumes. Therefore it's obscene to eat meat when other people can only afford to eat grain. Or some nonesense like that.

4 posted on 07/06/2003 11:36:12 AM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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This will NEVER happen in Texas. If they so much as TRY to ban meat here, we'll kill 'em.
5 posted on 07/06/2003 11:37:54 AM PDT by 4mycountry (Over-achiever extraordinare!)
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Frankly speaking -- I bet in 5 years U.S. cattle herds will be infected with mad cow. If they aren't already. Canada was claiming last week that the mad cow disease they discovered in Alberta came from the U.S. There are rumors of mad cow type illnesses decimating wild deer and elk herds. These herds cross borders and mix with cattle and graze along side in some areas. There are rumors also the prions can be spread by milk.As for me, I still eat meat. But it pays to be aware of what is going on in the background.
7 posted on 07/06/2003 11:43:17 AM PDT by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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As strange as this sounds, I hope these people are able to push their morals/agenda forward and make at least some headway. Many average, ordinary, non-political sheep simply passively stood by, ignored, or cheered the anti-smoking fanatics as they sued tobacco companies (and won), outlawed smoking in public places then private businesses, and IMO will eventually have it banned in private households (for the children, don't you know). Many people didn't care because the rights of "other people" (nasty, dirty people) were being infringed upon, not theirs.

The food Nazi's, however, will affect everyone, and this should wake some people up to the fact that government is more than willing to allow tyranny of the minority.

12 posted on 07/06/2003 11:54:59 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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What are the odds that New York will ban meat consumption in restaurants, bars and workplaces within the next 25 years?

Does not matter to me what the VEGGIE Kooks push through I'll still eat meat.

Hey all you VEGGIES, let me introduce myself; I'm Hannibal Lectors Cousin!

13 posted on 07/06/2003 12:08:43 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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This proposal is as looney as the Brits giving the transvestites the right to marry. Now there's a question begging to be answered.

Why would transvestites want to marry? They can't even figure out what gender they want to be.
15 posted on 07/06/2003 12:16:45 PM PDT by freekitty
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Vegetarians eat vegetables, right? Well, I'm a humanitarian.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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http://palaceofreason.com

16 posted on 07/06/2003 12:19:46 PM PDT by fporretto (This tagline is programming you in ways that will not be apparent for years. Forget! Forget!)
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Hmmm..

And this differs from Fundies trying to ban gay sex how?

17 posted on 07/06/2003 12:20:18 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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"Vegetarian" is an old Indian word that means "lousy hunter".
18 posted on 07/06/2003 12:23:44 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Half the people you encounter are below average.)
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The peanut-pushers had better watch out for Aflatoxin. That's more dangerous than anything you can get from meat.
21 posted on 07/06/2003 12:51:36 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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If this should happen, the appropriate response would be to take salamis to work to pummel the vegetarians about the head and neck.
26 posted on 07/06/2003 1:03:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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Dr. Laura recently mentioned that a news reporter in Virginia ran a followup on the duckling story a few weeks ago.

If you remember, a duck and her ducklings went a waddling through downtown Washington DC during rush hour. Traffic stopped, roadrage was abated as motorists peered out their windows to see the Duck and her ducklings waddle by across the highway.

A woman jumped across the street in front of an oncoming bus to save the ducklings, she followed and interruptted traffic the next block over,...for the safety of the little ducklings wouldn't you know?

The reporter followed up on this selfless deed of heroism and inquired as to the woman's line of work, seeing how she risked her life in front of a bus to save a few little ducklings.

As it turns out, she works at a planned parenthood clinic assisting in the provision of abortions.

Wouldn't you know it.
28 posted on 07/06/2003 1:06:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (0;^))
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i like little and big animale with faces - however, atached to each of thoes faces is a liver that produces cloestoral - recently i discovered, becauses i have eaten faces for a long time, my clorestrol accumulation in my heart artery had constricted one of the arteries 90% and i was a walking heart atack waiting to happen - through a modern marvel of angeoplasty, i now have full size arteries, assuming i refrain from colesterol and sugar - heart disease is the primary killer of adult males in the U.S. - eating meat may be worse that secomd-hand smoke in accumulating american dead bodies - there are a host of tasty sources of required protine if you tke the time to prepare them in a tasty manner - go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke
31 posted on 07/06/2003 1:20:59 PM PDT by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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Of course, one of the chief reasons New York enacted the statewide ban is due to the health dangers of secondhand smoke.

What dangers and to who????? Typical left-wing sheeple propaganda.

Meat consumption is different in this respect, but it has significant environmental dangers that cigarettes don't, such as large-scale pollution of air and water, greater use of energy, water and other natural resources, and so on. As eating meat is increasingly recognized as an environmentally devastating act, its appeal will continue to erode.

Here he's got some things right. The cooking of beef, or anything for that matter, including his vegatables, is going to cause more pollution indoors than a room full of smokers ever will.

My suggestion to this particular enviro-weenie is to take it outside, but don't cook it - eat it off the vine.

Personally I think I will go fire up the grill and toss on a couple of burgers!!!!!!

34 posted on 07/06/2003 1:35:59 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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Why doesn't this surprise me one little bit, they have seen how bans against smoking has worked, expect more weirdo's to crawl out of the woodwork.
45 posted on 07/06/2003 4:27:39 PM PDT by Great Dane
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One thing I have noticed over the past few months. Liberals tend to favor a low fat/high carb diet while conservatives tend to favor a high fat/low carb diet. Of course, the liberals feel compelled to impose their unhealthy diet on the rest of us, which is why so many people on the welfare lines are, well, as fat as cows.

I switched to a high fat/low carb diet (not Atkins but a variation of it) back in March and I have already dropped 51 pounds off my formerly fat body.

Cows eat grains to get fat and people eat cows to get skinny. And that really pisses the vegetarians off.

47 posted on 07/06/2003 6:30:33 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 249 (-51))
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"Vegetarians are cool. All I eat are vegetarians."

Kill It & Grill It by Ted Nugent (yes, THAT Ted Nugent.)

49 posted on 07/06/2003 7:00:41 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Racism is the codified policy of the USA .... - The Supremes)
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First they preach I came from a monkey, took away my smokes and now this placemarker.
55 posted on 07/06/2003 10:57:43 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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