French secret service 'kept CIA in the dark over Iraq and uranium'

The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 07/14/03 | Michael Smith

[Satadru]

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[rintense]

Now why am I not surprised the French had a role in this?

[MizSterious]

Weasel alert!

"The French secret service is believed to have refused to allow MI6 to give the Americans "credible" intelligence showing that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger, US intelligence sources said yesterday."

[AntiGuv]

How precisely does this rise above the level of sheer idle speculation? The CIA asserts the intelligence is faulty, Blair insists it's genuine but cannot be shared, so someone simply decides it cannot be shared because the French are withholding permission. Where's the substance?

[marron]

British officials... insisted that the intelligence behind it was genuine and had nothing to do with the fake documents. It was convincing and they were sticking with it, the officials said. They dismissed a report from a former US diplomat who was sent to Niger to investigate the claims and rejected them. "He seems to have asked a few people if it was true and when they said 'no' he accepted it all," one official said. "We see no reason at all to change our assessment."

[William McKinley]

Click!

A big question has been 'why would the British government not share the other intelligence about Niger'? Jack Straw stood by the British intelligence, saying there was more than just the documents that Wilson claims to be fake (though Wilson never saw them).

We now know why. French secret service 'kept CIA in the dark over Iraq and uranium':

"The French secret service is believed to have refused to allow MI6 to give the Americans 'credible' intelligence showing that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger, US intelligence sources said yesterday.

MI6 had more than one 'different and credible' piece of intelligence to show that Iraq was attempting to buy the ore, known as yellowcake, British officials insisted. But it was given to them by at least one and possibly two intelligence services and, under the rules governing cooperation, it could not be shared with anyone else without the originator's permission.

US intelligence sources believe that the most likely source of the MI6 intelligence was the French secret service, the DGSE. Niger is a former French colony and its uranium mines are run by a French company that comes under the control of the French Atomic Energy Commission."

As I said in the blog entry linked above (click Straw's name): What did the Clinton's know, and when did they know it?

Remember this:

"France's first lady expressed her support for a presidential run by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, saying that such a candidacy would be an inspiration to women worldwide."

Folks, there really is a Watergate style scandal coming. But it is not going to be about the administration. It is going to be about the Democrats.

[meenie]

The British blame the French and CIA, the CIA blames the British and the French, Bush blames the CIA and British and French because they didn't want the British and US to go into Iraq. Never have so many tried to pass the blame onto so many other shoulders. It is effective though, because nobody can figure out who did or did not do what.

[Mean Daddy]

Uck the rench.

[kayak]

ping

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Folks, there really is a Watergate style scandal coming. But it is not going to be about the administration. It is going to be about the Democrats.

And to think, Chirac's wife is throwing her support behind Hillary! The weasels stick together, come hell or high water, don't they?

[Miss Marple]

I have thought this for some time. Clinton spent a great deal of time in the run-up to the Iraqi war gadding about Europe, hobnobbing with Chirac and meeting with people in Belgium. I note also that right before Chretien of Canada let loose with his last round of insults about President Bush, he was meeting with Bill and Hillary Clinton in the Dominican Republic.

My hope is that the Secret Service reports this stuff to Secretary Snow, who briefs the appropriate people.

[cwb]

Yeah...and its pretty interesting how so much credibility is given to Wilson's claim when he only spent 8 days in Niger doing nothing more than asking questions. And, were suppose to believe that Niger is going to admit to dealing with Saddam and participating in proliferation.

[William McKinley]

Well, there is no proof here. Just some really good educated guesses that would explain an awful lot. There is obviously something the Brits know that we don't (see the Straw statement). Why would they not share with us?

Here is a very, very plausible explanation.

[Miss Marple]

Well, meenie, I have no trouble figuring this out at all. I am sure if you ask nicely, William McKinley will give you a quick synopsis.

[okie01]

"...so someone simply decides it cannot be shared because the French are withholding permission. Where's the substance?"

Italian intelligence, the reported source of the forged documents, has asserted that they got them from the French.

Ever since the forgery has become known, the speculative source has been France. They had opportunity. And they had motive -- to cover their continued game of footsie with Saddam...and to embarrass the USA.

It's not "substance". But it seems a well-founded guess...

[NeoCaveman]

Now why am I not surprised the French had a role in this?

Because the French are Weasles.

[Miss Marple]

This is indeed a plausible explanation. The other explanations for the Brit's withholding intelligence would be the protection of a source (which I don't think is the case) OR the knowledge that the information might reach someone who is compromised in the US...like a Senator or Representative that sits on one of the Congressional intelligence committees.