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U.S. Auto Deaths Hit 12-Year High in 2002
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| Thu Jul 17, 3:08 PM ET
| John Crawley
Posted on 07/17/2003 4:21:34 PM PDT by demlosers
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:21:34 PM PDT
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demlosers
To: demlosers
43,000 highway deaths / 365 days = 117.80 per day.
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07/17/2003 4:24:16 PM PDT
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:26:20 PM PDT
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To: demlosers
A traffic researcher buddy told me that the deaths per mile are actually DOWN, and the reason that the overall death toll is higher is only because the total miles driven is way up. Can anyone confirm that?
To: glock rocks
they're gonna ban cars/truck/motorcycle next...I'm hiding my in the lake....maybe they won't look there.(/sarcasm off ...I just could help myself except to say that.)
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:32:46 PM PDT
by
Madcelt
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To: demlosers
This VS how many deaths by firearm?
Ban the cars, ban the cars (and SUVs)!!!!!!
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:33:57 PM PDT
by
cavtrooper21
(I will not go quietly into the dark....)
To: Steely Glint
the reason that the overall death toll is higher is only because the total miles driven is way up. Sure seems like people are using their cars more. I wonder if people in the SUVs are properly belted in, or if they carry loose cargo that would cause injury in case of roll-over.
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:36:55 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Destroy the dark; restore the light)
To: demlosers
Classic liberal reasoning by Claybrook. It was federal fuel economy regs that practically mandated the development of SUVs and minivans in the first place. Now she proposes to compound the "problem" with yet more federal regs.
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:37:26 PM PDT
by
Bonaparte
To: Steely Glint
Bad journalism in any case.
It would read very differently if it said "Miles WAY up, deaths per mile down. Public rejects TSA anal probe at airports in massive numbers."
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:42:51 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: Steely Glint
"A traffic researcher buddy told me that the deaths per mile are actually DOWN, and the reason that the overall death toll is higher is only because the total miles driven is way up. Can anyone confirm that?"
A very true and not publicized fact. It gores nobody's ox.
Best I can do right now is a NYT piece (VERY sorry about the source):
"The fatality rate on highways measured by deaths per mile driven is consistently decreasing. While roughly 42,000 Americans die in traffic accidents each year, the number of vehicles and miles driven have grown steadily every decade. "
http://www.scienceservingsociety.com/p/mics/BroderErrorFixed.htm
To: RightWhale
Rollover accidents are the most damaging to occupants. A three point belt does not prevent flail - whipping side to side as the vehicle rolls. Occupants heads impact the B pillats, windows and each other.
Don't you think there is a reason race cars are equipped with five point systems?
To: demlosers
BIG LIE! Responsible reporting of highway safety has historically been done in terms of fatality RATES. This avoids the distortion caused by increased numbers of drivers and miles driven. (Just because there are more fatalities, doesn't mean that the average driver is at any greater risk for each 10,000 miles driven.
In FACT, this "12-year record high" in total fatalities occurred in the same year where the fatality RATE maintained an ALL TIME record LOW.
The NHTSA release (which emphasizes the irrelevant total fatality number) is noted below, and it states:
"Though overall fatalities increased to 42,815 in 2002 from 42,196 in 2001, the fatality rate per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) remained at 1.51, a historic low. According to Federal Highway Administration estimates, VMT increased in 2002 to 2.83 trillion, up from 2.78 trillion in 2001."
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/nhtsa/announce/press/pressdisplay.cfm?year=2003&filename=pr32-03.html
(Note that the fatality rate in the mid 70s, AFTER the limit was dropped to 55, was about 4 times current fatality rates.)
To: demlosers
Not sure if this should be factored in, but weren't there a lot more of us driving after 9/11/01? My husband and I weren't about to fly anywhere until just recently.
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:56:35 PM PDT
by
Maria S
To: frithguild
Car occupants could wear helmets. That ought to reduce serious injuries considerably. Full harnesses would help, but that would be a hard sell among some. I wouldn't mind, but the gf is NOT going to be interested.
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posted on
07/17/2003 4:59:39 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Destroy the dark; restore the light)
To: demlosers
43,000 highway deaths / 365 days = 117.80 per day. 43,000 highway deaths / 365 days = 117.80 per day = QUAGMIRE!!!
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posted on
07/17/2003 5:00:47 PM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: eno_
Public rejects TSA anal probe at airports in massive numbers...You 'da MAN for pointing out why people are driving more. I love FR!
To: xm177e2
43,000 highway deaths / 365 days = 117.80 per day = QUAGMIRE!!! We're in Iraq!! ;)
To: RightWhale
Sure seems like people are using their cars more. I wonder if people in the SUVs are properly belted in, or if they carry loose cargo that would cause injury in case of roll-over.Try mentioning the higher center of gravity of SUVs to your SUV owning acquaintances and see what reaction you get.
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posted on
07/17/2003 5:06:20 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: RightWhale
Even belted in you're at a higher risk in an SUV, especially from your roof crumpling in on you. I believe some of the newer models are being reinforced, but you have to ask. Also, remember that side windows aren't glazed, and if your head hits that glass you're in trouble then, too.
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posted on
07/17/2003 5:06:29 PM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Steely Glint
It is true that deaths per million miles driven are down somewhat dramatically since the early 70's. If we had the same death rate per million miles, we would be killing about 150,000 people per year instead of only 43,000.
However, 43,000 deaths per year is an extraordinary number of deaths. Much more should be done to decrease the slaughter.
I believe that so many of us are touched by the tragic deaths of loved ones, friends, and acquaintances, that we would support a major highway traffic safety program. I good politician could find a ticket to the White House on public traffic safety.
I believe the starting place would be to eliminate high speed opposing lane roads. It could be done in a few years for a few cents per gallon in taxes.
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posted on
07/17/2003 5:10:38 PM PDT
by
Bluewave
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