Memphis: Sixth home shooting bloodies thief

http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/local_news/article/0,1426,MCA_437_2120755,00.html ^ | 7/19/03 | Bill Dries

[Lancey Howard]

However, police on Tuesday charged Joseph Jones Jr., 22, with two counts of reckless endangerment after he fired six blasts from a 12-gauge shotgun at a man he caught breaking into his shed..... Jones didn't hit the burglar.....

Jones deserves to have the book thrown at him.

[niteowl77]

.32-caliber black revolver.....

Is this a racist anti gun statement?

That's what I was wondering, although it could simply be a way of showing the beautiful diversity of firearms available to the American consumer. This country isn't ALL stainless steel, you know.

As far as a .32 goes, even Julian Hatcher didn't pooh-pooh the thing for self defense (FWIW, he even thought a .22 rf Colt snubbie loaded with hi-speed hollowpoints was not something to be dismissed outright). I depend on a Ruger SP101 with +P .38 Specials, but I am getting less recoil-friendly as I age, and I can understand the reluctance of older and smaller folks to use a boomer.

Keep cool enough to place the shot, and even the little stuff can ruin a jerk's day.

[Threepwood]

An elderly lady my Dad knew used a 308 Weatherby on a crook that was threatening her. He had evidently heard that she was recently widowed, and was a little bit isolated from town. So he just walked up, and began to kick her front door, demanding entry. Grandma didn't like *that* too much and put a 308 no-jacket slug through the door and into his torso. Toodles, idiot. Grandpa, I suspect taught her to operate that firearm at some point, and was probably very pleased with the divended of said training.:)

[Mulder]

That's when Schaefer reached into her china cabinet and pulled a .32-caliber black revolver

Ahhh... one of those evil black revolvers.

The only mistake this lady made was not using something bigger than a .32

[AnAmericanMother]

.308 Weatherby -- OMG! "When you care enough to send the very best."

Did they pick the guy up in two pieces, or what?

My dad's rifle of choice is the Model 71 Win in .348, an old brush-busting bear gun. It delivers a 250 grain pill at rolling slow velocity - and might be more of a punisher than the Weatherby, even. We can't get the 250s any more, so he'll have to be satisfied with 200s at a slightly higher velocity once our current reloads run out . . .

My dad once shot a burglar with his daddy's 16 ga. Parker - but all he had in it was bird shot at the time. Fellow probably slept on his face for awhile though, and apparently the word got out on the street, because nobody ever bothered my parents' house after that - in the City of Atlanta even.

Even a .22 short that you have with you is always better than a .45 back home in the nightstand . . . but a .308 Weatherby! << shakes head and whistles >>

[fso301]

This was a common burglary, not a home invasion.

Most home invasion robberies go unreported as the victims are immigrants who won't call police for fear of being arrested and or deported. Since they can't have bank accounts, the illegals keep their cash on hand. The home invasion robbers, typically neighborhod gang members know this and periodically stage one of these invasions.

Persons on means based public assistance having side cash jobs are also the victims as they too have to keep their cash on hand and will be reluctant to notify authorities.

Only occationally do the robbers accidentally storm into the home of people who are clean in the eyes of the law and it is those few cases that actually make it to the evening news.

All that having been said, I always thought a compact .22mag revolver would be a good ladies gun or backup weapon.

[Nov3]

Somebody needs to teach this lady about gun control.

You of course could do much better.

[Threepwood]

Funny you should ask. When Dad's men responded, there was a LOT of blood, but no body. Nobody turned up in a hospital with a bullet hole of the right (huge) demensions either. Best guess? Someone was there to help him, watched him get shot, then hauled him off. Pretty hard to explain why your bud is *that* dead. Probably just buried him somewhere.

[Freedom4US]

This is apparently an increasing phenomenon, as long established neighborhoods decline, elderly retired people cannot afford to move away, and they are tagged as 'easy marks' for robbery of cash and valuables. A relative down south nearby had been robbed repeatedly in the same way before he passed on. Oftentimes they will gain entry by requesting to use the phone, etc. There's something about taking advantage of the elderly that especially bothers me.

[AnAmericanMother]

Yeah, these petty crooks that prey on the elderly tend to travel in packs (cowards).

The other or others probably dragged him off in the article of death so to speak, and then got to thinking about all the embarassing questions they would have to answer if they showed up at a hospital with a very dead buddy with a volleyball-sized hole in his midsection . . . so they dumped him in a quarry hole or in a pond somewhere . . .

I hope they had nightmares for years.

Was your dad the local police chief?

[Threepwood]

Mounted Police NCO.

[PatrioticAmerican]

LOL! I didn't catch the name until your post!

[PatrioticAmerican]

LOL! I didn't catch the name until your post!

[vetvetdoug]

How many times have I got to say it? Memphis has become a cesspool full of crime and criminals. I think the Memphis police underreport the crime and gang fights. I remember a few years ago a gunfight broke out at the Mid South Fair between gangs and thousands THOUSANDS of people were there to see it and it went unreported by the police and the Commic Appeal. It was reported in our little local newspaper in Corinth, Ms, because there were dozens of folks from the area there to see it.

[AnAmericanMother]

All join in the chorus!

(sorry . . . couldn't resist!)

[Jay D. Dyson]

My mom carried an old S&W .32 revolver when we were kids.

Dad always thought she was undergunned. So do I.

Indeed. My wife pondered a .32 when I helped her pick out her first firearm, but I steered her toward the 9mm. (No amount of effort could get her to embrace the .357, .44 or .45 calibers.)

She ended up with a fine Beretta Brigadier. I'm okay with that. Me, I'll stick with my .45 and hollowpoint loads.

-Jay

[Darksheare]

Six shots?
Point blank range with a shotgun?
And not a single hit?
C'mon Jonesy, I know women without a day's training on a shotgun that can do better than that!

Those are the thoughts going through my head as I read this article.

[AnAmericanMother]

If he'd been smart, he woulda claimed that he was just firing in the air to scare the intruder.

Danged if I would confess to emptying my autoloader's magazine and not even scoring a wing. He must have had the shakes REALLY bad.

[AnAmericanMother]

I'm just not convinced that 9mm is sufficient "oomph" for when the digestive byproducts hit the rotating ventilation device. I'm a big fan (sorry) of placing my shots, but I know full well that with a malefactor trying to grab me or kick down my door (or worse trying to shoot me) and the adrenaline in full house overload, it's all I'm going to be able to do to hit center of mass.

Which is why Colonel Colt's fine products give me peace of mind. I've recently added Uncle Siggy's P245 to the stable for DA . . .

[Grammy]

Anybody remember the movie "Red Dawn" where the russians parachute in and take over the country? Mr Grammy and I watched that and said "not in Tennessee". Almost everybody here is armed.