The world's next superpower

Taipei Times ^ | 07.23.03 | Jonathan Fenby

[Little Ray]

I'd say China already IS a super power.
They can't project their power very well (we could make the People's Liberation Army Navy disappear almost without a ripple... their Air Force would be a tougher project, but I bet we could take 'em, too) but nobody could win a land war with the PLA - there is just too many of 'em and they are suprisingly well equipped!
It will be interesting to see how the "Great Game" plays out in Far East. I hope Japan starts becoming more belligerent, soon!

[sergeantdave]

The Chinese Supermen, who have created all the many inventions we enjoy today, including...uh, ummmm, uh...

The Chinese Supermen, who have invented and deployed the many awesome weapons for their armed forces, including,,,er, ah, hmmmmm...

The Chinese Supermen, whose brilliant scientists have created the folowing wonder drugs, including...uhh, um, er...

[Enemy Of The State]

"China is less Socialistic and more capitalistic than Canada. China's main problem is it is still a totalitarian state with no rights for individuals."

That is very easily argueable. Simply because China is not a totaltarian state and while they have very little protection for human rights, that is on the slow rise along with the standard of living. (noooo, im not defending the CCP, just pointing out some small facts)

[meadsjn]

Plus, their emphasis on sons is going to produce a huge surplus of single men with no one to marry in a few decades. All in all, I'd say things don't look that rosy for China.

Historically, the solution for nations with surplus men has been to send them to war to acquire more real estate (and females).

Things look a lot less rosy for the nations targeted for acquisition.

[Enemy Of The State]

Well, the emphasis on sons is not as existant as it used to be. That exists mostly only in the deep areas of the countryside. However, there is already a serious surplus of men versus women due to such a long practice of aborting female babies in favor of males.

Now they are not even allowed to have tests done to expose the sex of the unborn, it is illegal.

[Cacique]

All no doubdt with the help of our corporations that export our technology and jobs to them. Let us not forget a bit of history, that GM and Ford truck factories in Germany supplied the Wermacht in WW II. PING

If you would like to be removed from my job export ping list FReepmail me. If you'd like to be on it FReepmail me too.

[Always Right]

That is very easily argueable.

I am not certain, but I would bet that Canada has higher percentage of the GDP going for social welfare programs than China does, which to me is the best way to measure how 'socialistic' a state is.

[harpseal]

The intermediate and long term demographics mean that China will be needing additional land to take care of that massive surplus of young males. It is human nature that most young males desire females homosexual propaganda not withstanding. Those desires will be filled or there will be violence. Since China does not have the females to fill this need violence will result.

Of course the investment of Americna corporations will result in the US government having to reimburse them when the violence results. Should teh USA become involved the net will be a disater for us with a great many dead Americans.

We should not forget the PLA views teh USA as its potential enemy and they are building up to take us on eventually.

[Enemy Of The State]

If you want to discuss something and then quote me, please do not do so out of context. Im not trying to debate your comparrison of China to Canada because I have never really given any thought to such a topic. However, what I stated as being argueable is as I pointed out the first time.

"That is very easily argueable. Simply because China is not a totaltarian state and while they have very little protection for human rights, that is on the slow rise along with the standard of living"

[dennisw]

Nobody here cares. They only want cheap goods regardless of the effect to our economy.

Here's the real kicker. It's a vicious circle. As we export jobs the poorer Americans will get to where all they can afford is the cheapo Wal-Mart made in China crap. Poorer Americans will have no choice but to buy the cheapChinese stuff even if they want to be loyal to the American manufacturer. Matter of fact this is already happening.

[The Pheonix]

Re your post #4, where you asked what does the symbol dragon means....

The dragon symbol is very ancient and it symbolizes the "Cosmic forces that link Heaven to Earth". In Daoism, they pray to "Heaven, Earth and Man". And the Emperor is the "Son of Heaven" who rules with the "Mandate of Heaven"(ie he has the right to rule because he has the Highest Moral Authority). The Emperor sits on the "Dragon Throne". Hence, only the Emperor can use the Dragon symbol.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Where would they be most likely to try to acquire?

It seems to me that their immediate neighbors to the south and west are heavily populated and are already pushing their land to the limits.

Siberia is supposed to be vast and rich in resources but the Russians can be pretty tough to handle.

Khazakstan and Afghanistan don't seem worth the trouble, except maybe for oil.

Australia seems like the ticket. Thinly populated by Asian standards and wide open spaces.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

"China has put on its best face for the world, particularly since it realized the benefits to be gained from Sept. 11. Blair and the other leaders beating a path to Beijing should realize, however, that, useful as foreigners are, China has never set much store by them. THE ROUND-EYES CAN PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY AND MONEY, BUT THE COUNTRY WILL GO ITS OWN PATH, making temporary alliances that suit it while increasingly using its clout as it chooses, in its bid to displace Japan as Asia's economic and political motor."

[logic]

The chinese have never been known for inventiveness or originality, but they can copy great. Just like Japan and Taiwan started out. After they get the economy stimulated with the huge trade surplus, then develop western type schooling to teach engineering (amoung other things) then look out, they will be a power to be reckoned with. Not that they are not now a power to be reckoned with, but after they advance a little more, they will be a power we will not be able to overcome.

The thing that chaps my hide is that we are funding our own overthrow as the leader of the world. Why we allow Chinese goods to be sold in this country with little to no import tax when the chinese tax our products going into china at about 1000% is not only stupid on our part, but I would call it abominable!! And the same thing goes on in so many other countries. Establishing trade treaties with other countries is one of the few things the constitution allows the federal government to do and it is one of the things they do the worst!! What would our economy be like if we had equal trade with all the other countries we trade with?? We are supposed to be for free trade, but what we have is nothing close to it! OK, OK I'll stop my rant, but only for now. I reserve the right to rant later...... : )

[Quix]

Didn't yet make it through every paragraph but it seems rather accurate to me.

Thanks.

[logic]

"Australia seems like the ticket. Thinly populated by Asian standards and wide open spaces. "

Don't forget newly dis-armed population!!

[Quix]

I'm not at all convinced that Hu is the 4th king mentioned in Dan 11:2

What leads you to that conclusion?

[The Pheonix]

A lot of Western journals, including TIME, FORBES, FORTUNE, etc, had quoted that China is currently producing about 500,000 Hi-tech engineers and Hi-tech techicans annually. A British Space-website had said that China had put 30,000 Space engineers into one special city, all working on China's Space Programme

Prof Needham of Oxford University had published a multi-volume study on Chinese inventions, and these includes paper, compass, gunpowder, paper-money, civil-service, the ship's rudder, the ship's water-tight compartments, Capitalism (the Tang Dynasty), rockets, flame flower, bronze bells casting techniques, numerous discoveries in the Sciences of Astromony, the water-wheel, paddle-boat,etc etc etc

[Quix]

Expanding into places like Viet Nam or Cambodia is not of much consequence or pride to China.

THEIR SIGHTS ARE AT LEAST ON AUSTRALIA and the world.

Well placed military and other types have persistently insisted that taking over Australia was not only their right, reasonable and inevitable--it was their duty to their people.

[harpseal]

Australia and the Phillipines seem the most likely targets IMHO.