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Both. Someone who brings 5 or 6 kids over from Mexico but accepts a job paying minimum wage with no benefits isn't providing their own living. Americans who work don't like having to take food stamps and free indigent care at the county hospitals. Plus they like owning homes and the rest when they work for a living versus living in government housing.

They can, all they have to do is avoid the payroll taxs, get free medical, live eight to a room, and collect welfare for fictional kids in addition to their real ones!

Just like the illegal invaders do.

If they then pool their money as the orientals , middle eastern, and some Mex. do, they can then start buying up the local strip mall or gas station, then only hire kids of their own etnicity to work for them.

Just like the illegal invaders do.

Nothing like a good communist backround to make the transition to an American based collective attractive!
It's really great for the clan elder, he gets to dole out pennies on the dollar to the workers as an "allowance" while he has all the best of everything for himself.

Yes, if American workers would just lower their standards and become good communist, living the collective lifestyle, the illegals would be shut out in a hurry!

In reality, it is taxs and entitlements that are killing wages and forcing small business to use the cheap illegal labor, a closely related vicious circle.

There is no rational reason for Mex. to have a standard of living any less than ours, except their culture of socialism and corruption at all levels.

The truth is that Americans can't do the jobs for the pay Mexicans will work for.

Can't? Or don't want to?

I wonder how many free traders would accept the average Mexican standard of living?

Can't. Mexicans live eight/ten men to an apartment, share expenses and send the rest home to Mexico to the tune of nine billion a year. No American family lives 8 familes to a house. Americans can't live on the salary illegals can.

Besides the tired excuse sold to Americans as to why it has been and continues to be "our duty" to endure high taxes, pay billions in foreign aid, hock our future to the tune of 34 trillion IOU's, and allow ourselves to be inundated while turning the U.S. into a third world flop house was to raise the boats of the people of the world, NOT SINK OURS, and certainly not lower our boats or standard of living on the altar of the "god of diversity". We are being strip mined by pandering politicians in the pockets of greedy corporations.