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Squandering the Cuban vote
Washington Times ^ | Aug. 2, 2003 | WT Editorial

Posted on 08/01/2003 10:41:38 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:05:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Green Knight
Just to clarify, there's a difference between...

A) People who lived in peaceful socialist countries, like France or Germany. These people have never known tyranny (At least real tyranny. Income Tax is a minor tyranny in my book, but that's a topic of discussion for another day), and so have never associated their system of government with being bad. They just assume that their country didn't become great because it was lacking something, which the US has, and that if enacted here, Socialistic policies will work.

B) People who grew up in brutal dictatorships. These people hate the system they grew up in AS WELL as the dictators. When Castro talks lovingly about Communism, all the while he's got his boot on somebody's head, do you think that makes that person inclined to think Marx was a wise man? As I said, I don't know ANY 1st-generation Cuban immigrant who thinks Communism is peachy. They all understand that it was the bane of their existence. Moving on to the 2nd and 3rd generations, you'll find some who do think it's a good idea, but that's because they're to ignorant to quiz their parents on what it was like in Cuba, and through extensive contact with Commies in THIS country.

Maybe this is a self-serving statement, but there SHOULD be a difference between Cubans, Haitians, and Mexicans. Haitians and Mexicans live in hellholes of their own devising. Ones which can be rectified at the ballot box. Exactly HOW can Cubans rectify THEIR problems at the ballot box? They can't. The only way to solve their problems is at gunpoint. Of course, that's easier said than done. Chavez's own military turned on him and HE'S still in power, and I don't see Castro's military turning on him. And lastly, they come here for different reasons. Most Mexicans come here just for the benefits they get. Most Cubans, however, come here looking for freedom. Were Mexico an island, I VERY much doubt you'd see them building little shanty rafts to get across the Florida strait the way Cubans do. Wouldn't you prefer to have a group of immigrants who come here not for the financial and medical benefits, but for the free society?

Bush should NOT send those refugees back, and he needs to eliminate that "Wet Foot/Dry Foot" policy. The sense of betrayal down here is palpable.
21 posted on 08/02/2003 4:06:16 AM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: Green Knight
Seems I feel the need to clarify a little bit more.

Again, what's the difference between Mexicans and Cubans? If a Mexican gets sent back, there's no problem. He goes home, cleans up, then tries to jump the fence, again. There's no threat of incarceration or execution. No visit from the (Non-existent in Mexico) Secret Police.

If a Cuban gets sent back, best case, he gets thrown into a very dank, dark cell for a very long time. Worst case scenario, he's executed.

BIG difference between a country which actively ENCOURAGES its people to leave its shores, and one which imprisons and murders its own people just for trying to leave. I doubt the fate of the refugees will be all that pleasant once they get back to Cuba.
22 posted on 08/02/2003 4:14:35 AM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: FairOpinion
"More than 80 percent of Florida's 400,000 Cuban-American votes were delivered for Mr. Bush in 2000. "

SOURCE: http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030801-093837-9954r.htm

Let's see, that's......about 320,000 votes that Bush received from Cuban-Americans in FL in the 2000 Election.

...and Bush won FL by 520 votes!

Is it safe to say that there are more than 520 "pissed-off" Cuban-Americans in Miami?

"...Karl Rove!...Paging Karl Rove!!" - "Anyone home???"

Sounds like some heads should roll over this stupid "everyone asleep-at-wheel" incident.

23 posted on 08/02/2003 9:30:50 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Thorondir
"Mexican, Cuban, Peruvian or frikkin' Martian, we cannot solve all the world's problems by moving the entire dissident population of all the turd-world countries here. I'm sorry if it sounds mean, but the answer to all the world's problems is not, "Move to America". We just cannot do it.

Stick it up yours!!

The Cuban Americans are more patriotic and pro-American than your average stooge walking down the street!!!

24 posted on 08/02/2003 9:33:39 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Thorondir
CORRECTION!! - sorry Thorondir

This mssg was meant for: RLK

"Mexican, Cuban, Peruvian or frikkin' Martian, we cannot solve all the world's problems by moving the entire dissident population of all the turd-world countries here. I'm sorry if it sounds mean, but the answer to all the world's problems is not, "Move to America". We just cannot do it.

Stick it up yours!!

The Cuban Americans are more patriotic and pro-American than your average stooge walking down the street!!!

25 posted on 08/02/2003 9:36:40 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA
No problem.
26 posted on 08/02/2003 11:16:53 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: LibFreeUSA
"...Karl Rove!...Paging Karl Rove!!" - "Anyone home???"

Sounds like some heads should roll over this stupid "everyone asleep-at-wheel" incident.

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Exactly right. It's time for them to wake up and take action, instead of letting the Clinton law continue, and hurt Bush. Not to mention, that Clinton's cruel executive order should have been reversed by Bush soon after he became president.
27 posted on 08/02/2003 12:08:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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