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To: Uncle Bill
This man, while obviously a heartfelt pro-lifer, is simply ignorant of the facts. Two things:

1. The bill was written the way it was to fit the Supreme Court's torturous Nebraska ruling that forced lawmakers to write the law in a very defined way to avoid it getting declared unconstitutional. My understanding is that it took the pro-life groups months just to find the right language to make sure the PBA Ban wouldn't be declared unconstitutional.

2. The foolish Roe affirmation was an amendment attached by liberals in the Senate. If this guy wants to find out who affirms Roe and who doesn't, he ought to try looking at the vote on the amendment itself.

Once the amendment had been attached, it would have been the height of folly to kill the entire bill because of one amendment that has no legal teeth at all.

This man is uninformed.

100 posted on 08/05/2003 8:18:08 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Bump!
125 posted on 08/05/2003 9:30:34 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Hey useful idiots! Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Zack Nguyen
Once the amendment had been attached, it would have been the height of folly to kill the entire bill because of one amendment that has no legal teeth at all.

I watch the Senate a lot. It seems to me they vote on each amendment.

Do you happen to know how we can check on who voted for it?

Thanks. :)

134 posted on 08/05/2003 10:08:16 AM PDT by carenot
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To: Zack Nguyen
Two thumbs up!
168 posted on 08/05/2003 12:24:34 PM PDT by William Wallace (“This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end.”)
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To: Zack Nguyen; carenot
2. The foolish Roe affirmation was an amendment attached by liberals in the Senate. If this guy wants to find out who affirms Roe and who doesn't, he ought to try looking at the vote on the amendment itself.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 108th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Harkin Amdt. No. 260 )
Vote Number: 48 Vote Date: March 12, 2003, 04:03 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 260 to S. 3 (Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 )
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of the Senate concerning the decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade.
Vote Counts: YEAs 52
NAYs 46
Not Voting 2

Grouped by Home State

Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Nay
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Nay
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Nay Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Not Voting Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Graham (D-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Miller (D-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Nay Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Fitzgerald (R-IL), Nay
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Not Voting
Louisiana: Breaux (D-LA), Nay Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay Dayton (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Lott (R-MS), Nay
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Nay Talent (R-MO), Nay
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Burns (R-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Nay Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Nay Sununu (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Corzine (D-NJ), Yea Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Nay
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Dole (R-NC), Nay Edwards (D-NC), Yea
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Oklahoma: Inhofe (R-OK), Nay Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Santorum (R-PA), Nay Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Nay Hollings (D-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Daschle (D-SD), Yea Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Nay Frist (R-TN), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Virginia: Allen (R-VA), Nay Warner (R-VA), Yea
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Enzi (R-WY), Nay Thomas (R-WY), Nay

183 posted on 08/05/2003 12:58:50 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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