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Hijacker Crashed Flight 93 on 9/11
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 8/7/03 | TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 4:22:34 PM PDT by dead

WASHINGTON - U.S. investigators now believe that a hijacker in the cockpit aboard United Airlines Flight 93 instructed terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah to crash the jetliner into a Pennsylvania field because of a passenger uprising in the cabin.

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

The government's findings — laid out deep within the report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that was sent to Congress last month — aim to resolve one of the enduring mysteries of the deadliest terror attacks in U.S. history: What happened in the final minutes aboard Flight 93?

The FBI strenuously maintains that its analysis does not diminish the heroism of passengers who — with the words "Let's roll" — apparently rushed down the airliner's narrow aisle to try to overtake the hijackers.

President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft have regularly praised the courage of those aboard Flight 93, some of whom told family members by telephone they were planning to storm the cockpit.

"While no one will ever know exactly what transpired in the final minutes of Flight 93, every shred of evidence indicates this plane crashed because of the heroic actions of the passengers," FBI spokeswoman Susan Whitson said Thursday.

Thirty-three passengers, seven crew members and the four hijackers died.

Citing transcripts of the still-secret cockpit recordings, FBI Director Robert Mueller told congressional investigators in a closed briefing last year that, minutes before Flight 93 hit the ground, one of the hijackers "advised Jarrah to crash the plane and end the passengers' attempt to retake the airplane."

Jarrah is thought to have been the terrorist-pilot because he was the only of the four hijackers aboard known to have a pilot's license.

Mueller's description was disclosed in a brief passage far into the 858-page report to Congress. Previous statements by FBI and other government officials have been ambiguous about what occurred in the cockpit.

Mueller's explanation was based on the FBI's efforts to decipher the cacophonous sounds on the cockpit recorder and produce a comprehensive transcript, said one official, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The FBI is convinced it may never know for certain what transpired in those final moments, but Mueller represented the information as the FBI's leading theory, this official said.

The same cockpit recording was played privately in April 2002 for family members of victims aboard Flight 93, and the FBI also provided them with its best effort at producing an understandable transcript.

Some family members indicated afterward they were led to believe that passengers used a food cart as a shield and successfully broke into the cockpit.

The FBI has been loath to publicly put forward a contradictory theory out of sensitivity to the families and because of uncertainty about what happened.

People who have heard the recording describe it as nearly indecipherable, containing static noises, cockpit alarms and wind interspersed with cries in English and Arabic. Near the end of the tape, sounds can be heard of breaking glass and crashing dishes — lending credence to the theory that passengers used the food cart to rush the jetliner's narrow aisle.

Separately, the data recorder showed the plane's wings rocking violently as the jet flew too low and too fast for safe flight.

Intelligence officials believe the likely target for Flight 93 was the White House, based on information from Abu Zubaydah, a senior al-Qaida terrorist leader in U.S. custody who is believed to have played a key role in organizing the Sept. 11 attacks.

Prosecutors have sought a U.S. judge's permission to play recordings from Flight 93 during the terrorism trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only defendant in a U.S. case prosecutors have directly tied to the attacks. Moussaoui is accused of conspiring with the hijackers.

The government has said it can link Moussaoui to Jarrah, using a telephone number found on a business card recovered at the Shanksville, Pa., crash site. Prosecutors believe the card belonged to Jarrah and that Moussaoui had called the same number.

Moussaoui has acknowledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida but says he was not involved in the attacks.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911report; americanheroes; blessthemall; fbi; flight93; godblessthem; heroes; jarrah; letsroll; moussaoui; robertmueller; targets; whitehouse
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To: Timesink
You are quite correct about cell phones working. The main "problem" with using cell phones on commercial airplanes is that you are doing a hand-off every couple of seconds. That stopped really being a problem a while ago. Modern mobile infrastructure can handle that, even though the network wasn't really designed for that - i.e. the VLR databases won't crash under heavy loads of transactions as a planeload of people moves from one roaming area to another. It is completely beliveable people called loved ones from cell phone on flight 93.
321 posted on 08/08/2003 5:10:38 AM PDT by eno_
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To: HitmanNY
Why is it so important to you that they didn't make it into the cockpit?

The plane went down in the field because they passengers decided to fight back. Simple enough.

322 posted on 08/08/2003 5:36:37 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: PFKEY
One of the passengers was indeed a pilot and could have flown the plane.
323 posted on 08/08/2003 6:01:52 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: American Copper Beech
The Mirror is tabloid trash which you should NEVER cite as
a source if you want to remain credible.
324 posted on 08/08/2003 6:03:33 AM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: dead
The F.B.I. is right, it doesn't diminish their heroism. If the plane had remained in level flight, I have no doubt they would have made it into the cockpit.

Most likely these hero's fell on the cockpit door, as the plane nose dived toward the ground. If they had done nothing, we would be talking about rebuilding the White House.
325 posted on 08/08/2003 6:12:51 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: ChemistCat
Heroes enough for me. They TRIED

It should be noted they succeeded. The attack was foiled because they acted.

326 posted on 08/08/2003 6:14:16 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: American Copper Beech
American Copper Beech (one of my favorite trees by the way), the article refers to a white jet, twin engine pods to the rear, with vertical vanes on the wingtips. Sounds like a commuter, corporate-type, or rich person's toy type of plane. Not the kind of craft that would carry AIM-9 missiles.

A grey plane with lots of wing pods and enclosed engines, that would sound like a military jet.

To require a general aviation plane to be armed with missiles or a cannon is a whole new area of conspiracy theory, so let's apply the Razor of Sir Ockham.
327 posted on 08/08/2003 6:20:41 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Fresh Wind
360-degree turns? Did Maxine Waters write this?

Planes make 360 degree turns all the time.

In layman’s terms, its known as “flying straight.”

328 posted on 08/08/2003 6:31:56 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Arkinsaw
P*sses me off that the author of this article is acting as if this fairly useless bit of information somehow invalidates the actions of the passengers which it in no way does.

You're right on the money, Arkie.

And it p*sses me off as well.

There have been people who have been working to discredit this story from Day 1. The notion that ordinary people could have a positive effect by defending themselves and their country is just too dangerous to the people who want us to rely on our betters in the Government and UN to protect us from harm.

This triumphalist BS from Reuters, about how a terrorist crashed the plane, rather than a passenger in a struggle, is no information at all. As far as I'm concerned, having the terrorists crash the plane in order to avoid losing control is the functional equivalent of the plane crashing during a struggle for control. The only difference, small though it is, is that the terrorists were a bit more cowardly in this latest version of the story.

The men and women who fought back on Flight 93 were heroes. This story does nothing to contradict that fact, as much as Reuters might wish it to be so.

And in my heart I know that even as the plane went down, the heroes on board knew that they had done well, and that their struggle was ultimately successful, even as it ended in their own deaths. I can't prove it, and nobody can prove otherwise, but I know it to be true.

329 posted on 08/08/2003 6:36:19 AM PDT by gridlock (Remember: PC Kills.)
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To: BigBobber; eno_
You're wrong. Type "Flight 93 debris" in Google and you'll find plenty of articles describing debris up to eight miles from the crash site and a one ton piece of engine 2000 yards away.

Has the NTSB released the report of the crash yet? Those reports often show debris fields, minus the human remains found.

330 posted on 08/08/2003 6:43:00 AM PDT by Fury
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To: dead
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/9/11_fighterjets020830.html

The only military planes even close to Flt 93 were unarmed, according to this ABC article- the commanders apparently discussed the possibility of ramming the hijacked plane in a suicide mission, saving many lives by averting a crash into a building.

Something else to consider- none of the cell phone calls mentioned a fighter jet outside waggling its wings and buzzing the plane to attract attention, as is normal protocol. If I were on a passenger jet, on the phone, and saw an F-16 doing acrobatics you bet I'd shout LOOKITTHAT!
331 posted on 08/08/2003 7:03:14 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Our man in washington
The planes that the the World Trade Center could have cause more mayhem if they had hit lower, but we can't know the pilot's intention.

This has got to be the stupidest thing I have seen all year. Against some pretty stiff competition, BTW. How in the world do you cause more mayhem than the complete destruction of two 110 story skyscrapers by hitting them lower? They don't topple like trees, you know...

If the towers had been hit lower, I guess they might have collapsed somewhat faster. But they still would have fallen straight down.

332 posted on 08/08/2003 7:05:51 AM PDT by gridlock (Remember: PC Kills.)
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To: dead
http://www.msnbc.com/news/632626.asp?cp1=1

This article states that the last transmission from Flt 93 was a hijacker screaming "GET OUT OF HERE! Get Out of Here!"

Suggests that someone unwanted was entering the cabin, most likely angry passengers.
333 posted on 08/08/2003 7:10:54 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: gridlock
I agree, enough mayhem would have been caused even if they had hit higher, or off-center.

My 333 post link states that the flight control centers were being hit with bomb threats every few minutes- that was news to me.

Remember the first WTC attack by al Queda? If the bomb had been closer to the pillar the tower would have come down.
334 posted on 08/08/2003 7:14:04 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: dead
I suspected this from the beginning, considering the severe angle at which Flight 93 hit the ground -- as if it were deliberately "aimed" in that direction.

I also believe that this was part of the "strategy" of the hijackers, on _all four_ of the commandeered planes. They had trained, to wit:
1. To reach their primary objective (World Trade Center, White House, Capital, etc.)
2. If unable to reach the primary objective, to aim for a "secondary target of opportunity" (it has been pointed out that the plane that hit the Pentagon _may_ have been on course for the White House, but that the hijacker pilot was unable to "home in" on the White House because it is hard to see from the air, and that the Pentagon was quickly chosen as "an alternative target")
3. If unable to reach _any_ target, to simply crash the plane, destroying it.

Option #3 is consistent with what happened in Pennsylvania. The passengers revolted, and it was clear to the hijackers (or at least the hijacker pilot) that options 1 and 2 were unattainable. Since the hijacking was thwarted (or about to be), the _only_ option left to them (him) per their training was to crash the plane immediately. Thus the nosedive into the field.

IN NO WAY DOES THIS SEQUENCE OF EVENTS DETRACT OR DENY THE HEROISM OF THE PASSENGERS. Quite to the contrary, those who fought back ACHIEVED _their_ "objective": to stop the hijacking, the destruction of a national landmark, and the subsequent murder of many people, quite possibly including the President. It was the hijackers on Flight 97 that "failed" in converting the airplane into a weapon -- and took the only way out available.

This article serves to _validate_ the brave actions of the passengers on board, even if the journalist (?) who wrote it would try to convince us of otherwise.

Cheers!
- John

335 posted on 08/08/2003 7:15:58 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: gridlock; Arkinsaw
A common theme in many of the articles I have surfed up in the last couple of days is that Bush lied about Flt 93- and just coincidentally Gore's moveon.org speech centered on Bush lying in huge coordinated disinformation campaigns to systematically decieve the American people.

Hmmm, such a coincidence.

Certainly huge coordinated media campaigns are possible, we are seeing one in action.
336 posted on 08/08/2003 7:17:22 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: dead
Whether the hijacker flew it into the ground or it went into the ground during a struggle, the facts remain the same, the heroic passengers took matters into their own hands and at the cost of their lives, saved untold many others and left an inspiring legacy for our country and free people everywhere.

This is just another pathetic attempt by the media whores to denigrate our country and her patriots.

337 posted on 08/08/2003 7:25:39 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: tscislaw
no, the cabin is where the passengers sit, the cockpit is where the pilots sit

They are still heroes, all....
the Capt.
338 posted on 08/08/2003 7:25:46 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: dead
TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

And Anti-American Media Whore Extraordinaire!

339 posted on 08/08/2003 7:27:09 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: HitmanNY
You really, really hate the thought of heroic Americans, don't you? You are much more comfortable with the sinister American Government.

Enjoy your walk through life on the cloudy side of the street.

340 posted on 08/08/2003 7:29:00 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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