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EXITING CALIFORNIA! -- Invasion Of The Fleeing Golden Staters!
ICONOCLAST ^ | by Lin Anderson

Posted on 08/07/2003 7:38:01 PM PDT by Apolitical

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To: Joe Hadenuf
Reno is a mess of dirty freezing snow in the winter and you if you want to live like a lizard, move to Vegas. It's like Phoenix, it's not a temperature, it's an oven setting.....

...warm is good, hot better...ice, brrrrr :)

21 posted on 08/07/2003 9:07:03 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Texas_Dawg; potlatch
Texas is over 22 million (85% of which live in metropolitan areas) and not even close to having a state income tax.

Funny, but Potlatch posted the following: "Texas is still pretty conservative, especially outside the big citys."

Sounds to me like 85% of Texans are living in liberal surroundings--the densely populated cities.

But just keep rejoicing at your ever increasing population density.

It is obvious there is no correlation between places of high population density and liberalism.

Yet when I compare the population densities of U.S. counties that went for Gore to those that went for Bush in the last election:

Gore: 127,000,000 million people in 575,184 sq. miles = population density of 220 people per Square Mile

Bush: 143,000,000 million people in 2,432,456 square miles = population density of 59 people per Square Mile

I might be forgiven for concluding that the greater the population density, the more votes for candidates like Gore.

22 posted on 08/07/2003 9:07:37 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Apolitical
To all exiting Californians:

Nevada will fulfill all your dreams of a great place to live. They will welcome you with open arms.

I live in Arizona
tbird1
23 posted on 08/07/2003 9:08:35 PM PDT by tbird1
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To: Texas_Dawg
No one in Texas has ever even seriously mentioned having a state income tax that I know of.

Actually there have been some legislators that suggested bringing an income tax in to replace property taxes. Almost all of the ones that do that seem to lose the next election.

24 posted on 08/07/2003 9:13:15 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Yeah, you just let me know, OK? Your little theory is nice... it works in some places and not in others, so is basically just a silly theory that doesn't have much to do with anything. Texas has grown and grown and become more and more urban and is only getting more conservative.

If Texas is becoming more conservative, how do you explain you?

25 posted on 08/07/2003 9:14:22 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
I might be forgiven for concluding that the greater the population density, the more votes for candidates like Gore.

Well, that was my original implication - that big citys are more liberal. I live in a city of 65 thousand, but it is more conservative than liberal! But we are by no means 'a big city'.

26 posted on 08/07/2003 9:15:15 PM PDT by potlatch (If you want breakfast in bed - - - sleep in the kitchen!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I plan to return to Texas on retirement. That'll be another vote against the income tax.
27 posted on 08/07/2003 9:15:35 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I plan to return to Texas on retirement. That'll be another vote against the income tax.

Be careful to move to a rural location. You might be the straw that breaks the urban camel's back that makes Age of Reason's theory come true, sending Texans running to vote for taxes and Green Party candidates.

28 posted on 08/07/2003 9:18:49 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Texas_Dawg
Your little theory is nice... it works in some places and not in others, so is basically just a silly theory that doesn't have much to do with anything.

Population densities of U.S. counties that went for Gore compared to those that went for Bush in the last election:

Gore: 127,000,000 million people in 575,184 sq. miles = population density of 220 people per Square Mile

Bush: 143,000,000 million people in 2,432,456 square miles = population density of 59 people per Square Mile

Therefore, the greater the population density, the more votes someone like Gore gets.

And as I remember, Bush lost the popular vote as it was and despite leaning way over to the left.

And you want to add more people?

29 posted on 08/07/2003 9:21:07 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Riley
You are welcome here in South Carolina. To give you an idea of how different we are from California, South Carolina recently made available "In God We Trust" license plates. The design is the #1 specialty plate and is outselling the #2 plate by almost 9 times.

By the way, I am a native Californian who lived there during the Reagan days (left in 1977).


30 posted on 08/07/2003 9:21:52 PM PDT by Amanda King
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To: Age of Reason
And as I remember, Bush lost the popular vote as it was and despite leaning way over to the left.

Like I say, your little theory works in some places and doesn't work in others. It's like saying the stock market goes up more on average in years where the NFC team wins the Super Bowl than in years when the AFC team wins. True, but the Super Bowl has nothing to do with the stock market. Just about as bogus as your population theory. (Suburban Atlanta votes far more conservative than many rural Georgia areas which are still overwhelmingly Yellow Dog Democrat). Surely Bush wasn't in a close election because he was running against the Vice President of an administration that was sitting on top of the best economy in the history of the world, right?

31 posted on 08/07/2003 9:27:44 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Riley
Seriously dude, I hear in some states the FIRST thing you want to do is stop by the DMV and snag a set of new tags as windshield and tire insurance. :0 !
32 posted on 08/07/2003 9:30:55 PM PDT by Axenolith (And you don't want to stand below where the cows roost :))
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To: MissAmericanPie
California has reached the Metasticising stage!
33 posted on 08/07/2003 9:32:49 PM PDT by Axenolith (And you don't want to stand below where the cows roost :))
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To: Riley
South where?

I moved to Wisconsin (I know, home of tax-and-spend) 8 years ago and won't ever move back to Cali.

Test the waters when meeting new people. Let 'em get to know you before you announce, "Hey, I'm from California!" Our reputation precedes us.
34 posted on 08/07/2003 9:37:41 PM PDT by petuniasevan ("The telescope's optics are superb" means "they magnify atmospheric disturbances perfectly.")
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Reno is a mess of dirty freezing snow in the winter

For about one week a year. Negligible precipitation and winter daytime temperatures in the 40s don't make for much of snowy or even freezing winter. Think Silicon Valley temperature band shifted 5-10 degrees cooler.

35 posted on 08/07/2003 9:38:23 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Centurion2000
Actually there have been some legislators that suggested bringing an income tax in to replace property taxes. Almost all of the ones that do that seem to lose the next election.

My point exactly. Thanks.

36 posted on 08/07/2003 9:38:48 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Purging FR one idiot at a time.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Like I say, your little theory works in some places and doesn't work in others.

You can also point to cases where someone fell from a great height--yet suffered hardly a scratch.

That doesn't change the fact that it is wise to avoid falling.

To discover a trend, you don't just look at one or two examples, you look at all and average them out.

Which I did for you above.

And the difference in population densities was glaringly obvious.

The trend is that the greater the population density of a place, the more liberal the place.

37 posted on 08/07/2003 9:43:40 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Riley
I just sold my house. I will be leaving California on August 24th, bound for the South. California has been ruined by the nuts, many of whom came from other states. It has become a nut Mecca.

I wish you well on your journey. Travel safe and enjoy the trip. I hope your new home is everything you expect and more.

My wife and I will be joining the exodus from California in the near future.

California may be getting rid of Davis, but it seems most "Republicans" out here only want to replace him with "Davis Lite."

Small wonder this state is tanking as hard as it is. It's already hit rock bottom...now it's skidding a few thousand yards by sheer momentum alone.

-Jay

38 posted on 08/07/2003 9:45:23 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Steamroll the RINOs -- Vote for Tom McClintock! -- http://www.tommcclintock.com/)
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To: Torie
Oregon's economy is in the tank, with Washington close behind. The only problem with moving to Nevada, is that that means one must live there.

The economy is doing good in Nevada. Unemployment is bouncing between 3.5 and 4%. Primary reason: Many of the companies exiting California are setting up shop there. I don't go their very often, but every time I drop over the hill into Reno, some other big company has opened up an office there. I was pleasantly surprised to see one of the big pharmaceutical companies had opened up offices there. Amazon and Barnes & Noble have a very obvious presence, as do most banks. Lots of business moving in there, and they can barely throw up office buildings fast enough.

On the upside, one of my friends there who is a professor says that the state is becoming more conservative every day as people move there. Most people forget that Nevada was a Democrat state for a long time and that the conversion to Republicans is recent, hence the large number of Democrat incumbents. But the Democrats are rapidly losing ground as the people moving into the state are overwhelmingly conservative in nature.

39 posted on 08/07/2003 9:46:30 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Torie
Yeah, but aren't they getting a cool nuclear dump?
40 posted on 08/07/2003 9:51:57 PM PDT by novacation
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