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ACLU Loses Lawsuit To Delay Recall Vote
Cnn Live | 08-20-03

Posted on 08/20/2003 12:56:05 PM PDT by Brian S

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To: Brian S
GREG RISLING
The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 20, 2003; 4:07 PM

LOS ANGELES - A federal judge on Wednesday refused to delay the Oct. 7 recall election, rejecting arguments by a civil rights group that punch-card voting machines used in at least six counties won't accurately tally votes.

U.S. District Judge Stephen V. Wilson said he would not rule against the will of the people by delaying the recall vote, as requested by the American Civil Liberties Union.

The ruling was the latest development in legal challenges seeking to delay the historic vote.

On Tuesday, the U.S. Justice Department accepted the Oct. 7 election date in response to two civil rights lawsuits filed in San Jose federal court. Those suits seek to move the vote to March 2, the date of California's scheduled primary.

ACLU attorneys asked the judge to delay the recall until March so that six counties can replace punch-card voting machines with modern touch-screens or written ballots.

The old machines are being eliminated to avoid problems like the ones that caused the hanging-chad controversy during the 2000 Florida presidential vote. But punch-card machines will still be used in the six counties for the recall.

The groups' lawsuit claims the punch-card machines have error rates as high as 3 percent.

The state's attorney argued that it was premature to speculate what may happen with the punch-card machines and that delaying the election would be a disservice to voters.

61 posted on 08/20/2003 1:26:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...&&&&&&&&&...SuPPort FRee Republic.....www.TomMcClintock.com..... NEVER FORGET)
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To: NormsRevenge
filed
62 posted on 08/20/2003 1:27:55 PM PDT by inquest (We are NOT the world)
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To: Wright is right!
I missed that! when did the DOJ do that?
63 posted on 08/20/2003 1:29:07 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: kesg
Someone catch me up to speed: why is the ACLU even involved in this type of case?

I guess the recall is a violation of Gov. Davis's civil liberty in Despotism.

64 posted on 08/20/2003 1:29:13 PM PDT by m1-lightning (What's the difference between Nazis and Democrats?)
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To: Lazamataz
Impeach the court </oops wrong thread>
65 posted on 08/20/2003 1:32:40 PM PDT by jern
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To: Brian S; RonDog

"I'm Gumby, dambit!"

66 posted on 08/20/2003 1:33:35 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
HOOOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!
67 posted on 08/20/2003 1:38:01 PM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. An Hoa, Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: Brian S; MeeknMing; DoughtyOne



voice message to the ACLU:






68 posted on 08/20/2003 1:40:38 PM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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To: kesg
The recall clearly denies the Democrats their right to loot and plunder the state of California in perpetuity. As such, the ACLU had an absolute obligation to do what they could to prevent this travesty brought on by people exercising their rights granted under the California state constitution. You see some animals are more important than others and some rights are more important than others, dependent of course on whose rights they are. Clear it up for ya?
69 posted on 08/20/2003 1:41:11 PM PDT by Indianer (Where is John Galt?)
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To: YaYa123
More like "Shtop viz ze shpending!"
70 posted on 08/20/2003 1:50:18 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii (Actually Tarzana CA)
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To: autoresponder
I'm trying to decide if that is Baretta (Robert Blake) or Clint Eastwood. Eastwood ?? ...


Click here or on the pic !!
The Good, the bad, and the Ugly
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71 posted on 08/20/2003 1:50:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: autoresponder
Gray Out, Gray Out, he's our man...
If he can't screw us, no one can!
72 posted on 08/20/2003 1:52:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (California Democrats, a State Party worth -$38 billion.)
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To: m1-lightning
I guess the recall is a violation of Gov. Davis's civil liberty in Despotism.

I guess so. It's certainly not the usual type of case that the ACLU gets involved in.

73 posted on 08/20/2003 1:52:35 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Indianer
The recall clearly denies the Democrats their right to loot and plunder the state of California in perpetuity. As such, the ACLU had an absolute obligation to do what they could to prevent this travesty brought on by people exercising their rights granted under the California state constitution. You see some animals are more important than others and some rights are more important than others, dependent of course on whose rights they are. Clear it up for ya?

Nicely.

74 posted on 08/20/2003 1:54:56 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Brian S
The ACLU monsters are traitors, enemies of democracy, and ... lawyer vermin!
75 posted on 08/20/2003 1:56:29 PM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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To: babble-on
"I missed that! when did the DOJ do that?"

Believe it was late last week. The judge that heard the case commented in his ruling that his decision would be moot and void the moment the DOJ certified those 4 counties, and the DOJ did exactly that the next day IIRC. That's one's been over for almost a week now.

Michael

76 posted on 08/20/2003 1:57:19 PM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
The ACLU is indeed ferociously anti-Christian.
77 posted on 08/20/2003 1:59:05 PM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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To: Brian S
Yes,but a.c.l.u.wins lawsuit to persecute more christians!
78 posted on 08/20/2003 2:03:12 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: kesg
It disenfranchises voters if they have to use the same kind of voting machine to recall davis that they used to elect him.

Don't you just love liberals???
79 posted on 08/20/2003 2:07:33 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment)
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To: Brian S
TEXT OF THE JUDGE'S 29-PAGE ORDER REJECTING THE ACLU'S ARGUMENTS:

http://156.131.20.221/Cacd/RecentPubOp.nsf/bb61c530eab0911c882567cf005ac6f9/80f01024cb115b7788256d88006c5dec/$FILE/CV03-5715SVW.pdf
80 posted on 08/20/2003 2:09:15 PM PDT by pogo101
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