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To: DittoJed2
By I defy you to find a single solitary Christian doctrine found in the Bible that would promote Nazism

I believe Luther's words speak for themselves, and I would not dream of setting myself up as an authority on Christianity in opposition to a man whose name graces Protestant churches all over the world.

If you're going to dive into a thread on biology with a bunch of irrelevant nonsense about the origins of the Naziism, then be prepared to have a real, unrestricted discussion on all the social factors that gave rise to Naziism. Have you read Goldhagen's book?

By the way, you never answered my query on another thread about whether evolution was widely taught in the South betwen 1865 and 1965? the South was definitely Christian during that period. Was it Darwinist?

57 posted on 08/26/2003 3:04:26 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
I believe Luther's words speak for themselves, and I would not dream of setting myself up as an authority on Christianity in opposition to a man whose name graces Protestant churches all over the world.
BR> If you're going to dive into a thread on biology with a bunch of irrelevant nonsense about the origins of the Naziism, then be prepared to have a real, unrestricted discussion on all the social factors that gave rise to Naziism. Have you read Goldhagen's book?

No, I haven't. But I know all of the social factors leading to Nazism. Remember, I got a 106 in the course on Nazi Germany. I've also studied Austrian-Prussian history and can testify that the world has been a very antisemitic place for most of its history. The Jews were thrown out of England and Spain and during WWII we wouldn't take them in. Antisemitism is an ugly thing with many causes. Hitler used Darwinism to justify it, and comments by Darwin (less so) and some of his supporters lend credence to his usage of the theory.


By the way, you never answered my query on another thread about whether evolution was widely taught in the South betwen 1865 and 1965? the South was definitely Christian during that period. Was it Darwinist?

I'm not even sure what your point is here. I'm assuming you are talking about racism and integration. Did I somewhere say that Darwinism was completely responsible for Racism? I don't believe I did. The south had problems with Racism prior to Darwin and after. They did not get these notions from Christianity. Yet, even Gould (I think, or Dawkins) acknowledges that while it did not create racism Darwinism contributed to it.
58 posted on 08/26/2003 3:12:02 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (Romans 1:20)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I think we need to define what I am talking about when I say Christianity. To paraphrase the words of Billy Sunday, going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. When I refer to Christianity, I am referring not to what any church has taught or biblical scholar has believed. I am referring to the teachings of the New Testament. The teachings of Jesus, Paul, and others.

Based upon those teachings, I would conclude that Hitler was not a Christian, while Luther was. Christians are not perfect, but they do hold to certain essentials in belief- chief of which is the need to repent and received Christ as Savior for the remission of sins. If one claims to be a Christian but does not follow this essential teaching of the Bible, then in my estimation and Scriptures, they are not a Christian.
59 posted on 08/26/2003 3:15:29 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (Romans 1:20)
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