[Snerfling]

I take the deterministic view. The problem has already reached critical mass where it is completely self-sustaining ie they have the votes to perpetuate the status quo. If you think it's bad now, just project out another 10 years or so. Arnie is only a stopgap.

[ought-six]

"If you think it's bad now, just project out another 10 years or so."

This is primarily why I left California for good back in the late 1970s. I saw it -- especially Southern California -- succumbing to Mexification. Now, the preocess is all but complete. In ten years, California will cease to exist as part of the United States, as its allegiance will be wholeheartedly to Mexico City.