"Sexually Inclusive Christians" Celebrate Victories, Push for More

Institute on Religion and Democracy ^ | Mark Tooley

[xzins]

How about this: A one night stand is OK if you "care" about your partner's "sexual" needs. That demonstrates "love."

These are some sick puppies. They'll probably use that. :>)

[lupie]

I didn't know they have Gay Days at Kings Island? My kids go there from time to time. I didn't know they had them there. I will warn my kids.

In Jesus alone,
Andra

[Sir Charles]

How about originating with His Father before time began. Aristotle may have coined the phrase, but Adam and Eve had free will, as did the angels before God created human life.

[glory]

They seem to truly believe that what they do in their sexual relationships is of incredible interest to the rest of the world.

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Yes, and this after years of claiming that whatever they do in their bedroom is their own business.

[xzins]

Santorum believes that sexuality is not just a private matter between consenting adults.

He believes it does have an impact on the health and welfare of the society at large.

Therefore, he thinks it is not unusual for the legislature to place restrictions when the evidence says it is necessary.

[TheAngryClam]

There is significant evidence that many early Christian groups had rather questionable sexual practices.

[xzins]

We took a youth group there once on a gay day.

At that time, the park said that the "gays" declare their own days and don't tell anyone.

That was years ago. They probably schedule them now. You could probably call and find out.

[lupie]

Our youth group goes there, the marching band goes there and now that our youngest drives, he wants to go there sometimes and our college kids still go every once in a while. I will warn them to call ahead first. I better not wait until next season, lest I forget.

Thanks for the warning. It doesn't surprise me, I just never thought about it except for Disney.

In Jesus alone,
Andra

[xzins]

Perhaps you mean the gnostic/christian cults?

Paul indicates that many were Saved from destructive sexuality, and he condemned some who wandered back into it; but there's no indication that the orthodox believers ever considered unnatural sexuality to be blessed.

Gnostics did; backsliders did....John suggests that Pergamum and Thyatira were both "types" of churches AND problem-plagued churches.

Is that what you mean?

[MarMema]

Yes, and this after years of claiming that whatever they do in their bedroom is their own business

Yes. Touche!

[TheAngryClam]

Gnostics especially, but also various other local churches.

There was no official orthodoxy until the third century, and even then there were various schisms, some of which survive to the modern world.

[Jorge]

Santorum believes that sexuality is not just a private matter between consenting adults. He believes it does have an impact on the health and welfare of the society at large. Therefore, he thinks it is not unusual for the legislature to place restrictions when the evidence says it is necessary.

Right. The legislature is going to determine that because certain sexual behaviors are unhealthy that they are going to outlaw them and direct police to bust down bedroom doors to stop people from engaging in them.
Sorry, but even the Supreme Court agreed this was not going to happen.

It really is ridiculous, and Santorum (who I like otherwise) made a fool out of himself on this issue.

[FlyVet]

It was just a matter of time.

It's moving real fast, isn't it? Lost, lost, lost.

[xzins]

What about the orthodoxy claim in post #91?

I'm uncomfortable with it. My sense is that the churches had organization and defined leaders.

[xzins]

Yes. It seems very fast.

But.

Where iniquity abounds grace doth much more abound. We must continue to pray for revival.

[Zack Nguyen]

Either way, God will have the final say. Selfishly, I hope he brings us victory now, though. An individual spiritual revival that eventually spills over into cultural/political movement ought to do the trick.

[Happy2BMe]

Do a quick study on Paganism In Post-Moral America

POST-MORAL AMERICA
the union of paganism and technology

by

Dorothy Anne Seese

Nothing short of national revival can save America from itself, its lusts, greed, worship of technology and exaltation of all that is pagan and degrading to the individual human being.

A nation has fallen flat on its face and barely anyone among the general public sees the extent of the evil (beyond the local convenience store robberies or driveby shootings) to the root causes of America's rush of the lemmings toward the precipice.

The national motto may still be "In God We Trust" but the majority of Americans and others living here, legally or illegally, have their own gods, baals, idols, gargoyles and pagan shrines of moral debauchery.

Humans are social beings, and for millennia the basic structure of society was the family, the basic moral unit was the integrity of the individual.  People need to belong, and until the 1970's era, people belonged to the family unit.  Now they either don't belong anywhere, or the government assigns them as children to some "unit" under their supervision.  Rugged individualism was once an admirable trait instilled into children from generation to generation, the true legacy of the family and the culture of character.  Any individualism is now brought under control by the federalized school system in favor of the collective class.

We have government-mandated or government-sanctioned groupthink coming out of institutions of higher idiocy like Berkeley (which has been a blight on the educational scene for at least six decades).  The purpose is to make the state and technology the relative moral compass and the family's moral influence irrelevant.  They have been very successful at what they are doing.  The same is true of most of our institutions of higher learning, Berkeley just happened to be a leader in this movement and a continuing fountainhead of mental and moral poisoning from academia.

We have a federal republic, but our elected representatives have failed to represent us, the citizens, and have represented either their own interests or that of the collectivist state and statism, demonstrating total contempt for their office and their constituents.  Rather than leading toward a higher pinnacle of moral excellence, our representatives in many if not most instances revel in their own debauchery and attempt to persuade the people of their districts or states that any deviant behaviors are "only about sex."

Lack of character in one area makes anyone highly suspect of possessing a faulty moral compass in other areas of their life and thought.

In the march toward one world governance, one world religion and one global federation of peoples, all the old boundaries are being tossed out like used Kleenex.

Individual morality has at its foundation a belief system that our once Christian-oriented nation will no longer tolerate.  Hence the nativity scene has nearly been obliterated from all public exhibitions at Christmas, replaced totally by Santa and anything non-Christian that people want to toss into the tinseltown, commercialized displays.

Quantity is the object, quality has only a relative, changing meaning, and virtue is ridiculed.

A nation such as this, that has fallen so far into the worship of itself, the exaltation of man's elitist rule and the denigration of the Creator is in for a hard, fast fall right off the precipice of national extinction.  Oaths of office have become meaningless rituals or recitations; vows and covenants are made to be broken; the home is the roof over one's head and not the residence of the heart's affections.  This type of social "order" is nothing but disorder under government supervision enforced by irrational laws to ensure its implementation.

We were once concerned about invasion of privacy, and now we face the impending invasion of our bodies by foreign objects ranging from government-wielded vaccination needles to mandatory implanted tracking devices.

We elected representatives and leaders, but after they were elected, we discovered that they were agents of the collectivist state or emissaries of tyranny.  Our judiciary has become complicit by upholding all that is ungodly and anti-individualistic while condoning, upholding and even wresting the Constitution and Bill of Rights to accommodate the statist agenda.

The government now owns the land, is buying up the water, controlling the means of food production, engaging in "rural cleansing" to get individualists off privately owned land, protecting fish that can be purchased in cans at the local grocery store, protecting bugs that would be more useful if exterminated and a selection of birds that few have ever seen or care to see.  Loggers are out of work while forests burn.  Environmentalists are still pushing their "global warming" efforts in spite of the fact that the polar ice caps on Mars are melting under the heat of the sun without human intervention.

Moral compass?  In a world of crackpots with leaders who worship themselves, theatrical stars who look like refugees from an insane ward or a cheap brothel, and kids dressed in gangsta clothes that express their attitude with chains and tongue piercings?  Not for those groups.

Moral compass?  When we tossed God out of our nation and our schools, our courts and public buildings, we threw the compass overboard.

Now ... we didn't have today's technology fifty or sixty years ago ... but were we a freer people with more individual freedom and respect for life, liberty and individual rights?  Did "home" still have real meaning?  Were children the property of their parents til age of majority rather than the state?  Did we have meaning to being an "American" other than coming here to milk the cash cow?

We're in post-moral America ... one that can't last long without a national revival that will return to us, as a people, our moral compass.  Absent that, the next generations will simply be cloned monsters that will bring down on us and our world not only a hybrid race of humanoid things, but the wrath of Almighty God (not Allah), which wrath we will have earned to the fullest extent of the judgment executed.

And justice it will be.

[xzins]

Personally, I do believe in the state legislatures having authority to establish quarantine laws and behavior laws when the issue is individual or public health.

It is a good thing to outlaw prostitution. There's really no significant difference between that and outlawing male to male and female to female sex.

[N3WBI3]

"Perry said he “just got married” to his male partner of 18 years, who has had AIDS for several years."

Ok where did he get AIDS from if he was in an 18 year relationship?? oh nevermind...

[xzins]

That proclivity for behavior that infects partners and spreads disease who knows where is just the reason for controlling sodomy.