Senate Approves 'Do-Not-Call' List

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[anniegetyourgun]

Figgers.

[TomGuy]

Second Federal Judge Blocks 'No-Call' List
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DENVER (Reuters) - A second federal judge has blocked a national "do not call" list that would have allowed consumers to stop unwanted sales calls.


However, Thursday's decision was based on telemarketers' free speech rights rather than questions over whether the Federal Trade Commission had the authority to implement such a list.


U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham in Denver said "the Federal Trade Commission has chosen to entangle itself too much in the consumers' decision by manipulating consumer choice and favoring speech by charitable (organizations) over commercial speech," the judge wrote.

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Allowing charitable (and political) organizations exemption appears to be the Judge's problem with the law.

[sarasmom]

Dont waste your money.
Phone company employees sell your unlisted number to call center lists. /sarcasm//
I found it does not help much.

[palmer]

Phone service is private property? No, phone service is a contract between you and the phone company. If you don't like the contract, choose a different one.

[cake_crumb]

Wouldn't it be nice if they worked so fast on, say, funding the military or on judicial nominations or the PBA ban...?

[palmer]

I wasn't aware that caller ID was mandated by federal law, I always thought it was a technology and market-driven feature. But maybe I'm wrong, maybe we need the government for everything.

[Recovering_Democrat]

You make a good point, palmer. Philosophically, I think you're right: the market would have gotten 'round to this--probably in a better, more creative way. And a way that would've employed more Americans.

That being said, I also put my name on the list.

[Steely Glint]

Any true Libertarian knows that the right to swing your own fist ends at someone else's nose.

Under any kind of Libertarian system, no telemarketer would have the right to intrude, unwanted, upon another's privacy in their home.

So, calling this a "statist" thread is not only foolish but also rather ignorant.

[Graybeard58]

"Allowing charitable (and political) organizations exemption appears to be the Judge's problem with the law".

That's my problem with it too. I will not hold my breath waiting for congress to pass a law that bars telephone solicitions for political purposes.

[jern]

"forces itself onto my property."

Where is your mailbox located?

[OldFriend]

Pretty sure the phone companies are selling the lists of customers.

People with unlisted numbers get polling calls too.

[Otis Mukinfus]

YaaaaaHoooooo!

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

I wasn't aware that caller ID was mandated by federal law,

It's not. And neither is the Do Not Call registry. You don't have to sign up for it, but it's available if you want to--just like caller ID.

[Luke Skyfreeper]

There should be a special Hades for the telemarketers, one from which they could escape by making one measly sale, and no one ever buys.

There already is, as anyone who has ever had to work as a telemarketer knows.

Or do you think people who have better options actually choose to work at a job where people cuss you out, scream in your ear, blow whistles to try and assault you, and hang up on you hundreds of times a night?

[discostu]

Everybody sells their lists. It's a big secondary source of income for any industry that regularly collects your phonenumber (which means anybody you ever pay by check among others).

[FreeReign]

...this seems to be a statists only thread.

Only to an anarchist.

[steve-b]

"Allowing charitable (and political) organizations exemption appears to be the Judge's problem with the law".
That's my problem with it too. I will not hold my breath waiting for congress to pass a law that bars telephone solicitions for political purposes.

Actually, the steam roller of public opinion might well force them to do exactly that. This ruling might actually turn out to be beneficial.

[edchambers]

I signed up for this list but lately I've been having second thoughts about it.I'm thinking this may not be a good time to put thousands of (admittedly obnoxios) people out of work.When you combine this with pending anti spam legislation I can already hear Howard Dean screaming about another MILLION jobs lost under the Bush administration.There will of course be no connection to the list just MORE JOBS LOST.Maybe I'm paranoid,maybe not.

[Recovering_Democrat]

i never called it a statist thread.

[palmer]

i never called it a statist thread.

I did.