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To: dwd1
"Just for the sake of argument, let us say that he is not a racist."

"Perhaps, I could concede that Rush Limbaugh is not a racist but he made a racist statement."

"I do think he should have stood his ground and created a body of work in sports commentary so that we could see a pattern of objectivity and fairness as opposed to a pattern of insensitivity and race baiting."

Sorry, dude, you're out there on the fringe. Explain, just ONCE, how criticizing white sports writers for building up hype based on race is racist. It is, in fact, the opposite. As for "pattern of race baiting" . . . WHAT in the world are you talking about???

173 posted on 10/02/2003 7:04:43 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ
I do not think criticizing anyone for anything is wrong... I ask once again, however, why he do not use specifics or go on SportsCenter and debate the issue...

If people are being hyped for racial reasons, then their credibility should be questioned and their integrity improved....

Something I learned in debate class...

He who asserts must prove...

Show me the evidence that there is such a bias and I am more than willing to listen....

I may or may not be on the fringe but I know sports and I know about racism and I know about conservatism.... We can dance this dance all day long...

I am not going anywhere...

And if Rush had taken that same attitude and engaged those who had a problem with what he said in a position where he was not in control of the mike, he would still have his job and I would still like to see him do that because I don't think this is worth losing a job over....


The principle is what is at stake....

Don't make a statement and then not stand up and debate it in neutral territory...

174 posted on 10/02/2003 7:54:35 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: JohnnyZ
I do not think criticizing anyone for anything is wrong... I ask once again, however, why he do not use specifics or go on SportsCenter and debate the issue...

If people are being hyped for racial reasons, then their credibility should be questioned and their integrity improved....

Something I learned in debate class...

He who asserts must prove...

Show me the evidence that there is such a bias and I am more than willing to listen....

I may or may not be on the fringe but I know sports and I know about racism and I know about conservatism.... We can dance this dance all day long...

I am not going anywhere...

And if Rush had taken that same attitude and engaged those who had a problem with what he said in a position where he was not in control of the mike, he would still have his job and I would still like to see him do that because I don't think this is worth losing a job over....


The principle is what is at stake....

Don't make a statement and then not stand up and debate it in neutral territory...

175 posted on 10/02/2003 7:54:39 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: JohnnyZ
Those who have heard Rush Limbaugh speak could argue that he has an attitude similar to Trent Lott... We will talk to your top 5% (best educated, most successful) but other than that, you are a useless people... This is the perception shared by many regarding his positions on race... I have said many times that he tends (IMO) to jump to the worst conclusion about black people in his radio shows and it does get trying when he is discussing other issues where I agree 1000% with what he says...

I would like to see him stay on ESPN simply because he could learn a lesson and find a better way to present his views because his analysis of sports has been reasonably accurate.... He simply needs to learn to compartmentalize a little better...

If he walks away from this, he is showing that he does not have the courage to defend his views unless he is control of the mike...

176 posted on 10/02/2003 8:03:12 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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