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ESPN's Chris Berman: I'm a "New England Democrat" (in Context of Flap over Rush's Remarks)
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Posted on 10/01/2003 3:04:45 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

ESPN.com: NFL

Wednesday, October 1, 2003 QB disappointed others didn't respond during show

ESPN.com news services

PHILADELPHIA -- Donovan McNabb isn't looking for an apology from Rush Limbaugh, who said he was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.

It's too late for that.

“ An apology would do no good because he obviously thought about it before he said it. ” — Donovan McNabb

"He said what he said. ... I'm sure he's not the only one that feels that way but it's somewhat shocking to actually hear that on national TV," the Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback said of Limbaugh at a news conference Wednesday. "An apology would do no good because he obviously thought about it before he said it."

Before McNabb led the Philadelphia Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, Limbaugh said during ESPN's pregame show that he didn't think McNabb was as good as perceived from the start.

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well," Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

Limbaugh didn't back down from his comments during his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday.

“ All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something. ” — Rush Limbaugh

"All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something," Limbaugh said. "If I wasn't right, there wouldn't be this cacophony of outrage that has sprung up in the sports writer community."

The NFL disclaimed any responsibility.

"ESPN knew what it was getting when they hired Rush Limbaugh," league vice president Joe Browne said. "ESPN selects its on-air talent, not the NFL."

Chris Berman, who anchors the ESPN show, described himself as "a New England Democrat" but added, "I don't think Rush was malicious in intent or in tone.''

"As cut and dry as it seems in print, I didn't think so when it went by my ears," he said. "I probably should have looked to soften it.

"We're sorry we upset a guy who got off to a rough start. We don't need to be in the middle of his travails.

"As the quarterback of the show, I feel bad about it. I don't think it was meant the way it came out. I don't think that defines the way Rush feels about people."

McNabb, who was runner-up for the league MVP award in 2000 and has led the Eagles to two straight NFC championship games, said he has no quarrel with Limbaugh's comment on his playing ability. "I know I played badly the first two games," he said Wednesday.

ESPN executive vice president Mark Shapiro came to the conservative Limbaugh's defense.

"This is not a politically motivated comment. This is a sports and media argument," Shapiro was quoted as saying in a USA Today column published Wednesday. "Rush was arguing McNabb is essentially overrated and that his success is more in part [due] to the team assembled around him.

"We brought Rush in for no-holds-barred opinion. Early on, he has delivered," Shapiro told USA Today.

McNabb got off to the worst start of his career this season and was the NFL's lowest-rated starting quarterback after losses to Tampa Bay and New England. Still, the Eagles are 36-22 in games he started.

He said Wednesday that Limbaugh's comments about his race were out of bounds and added that someone on the show should have taken him on. Among the other panelists are former players Michael Irvin and Tom Jackson, both of whom are black.

"I'm not pointing at anyone but someone should have said it," McNabb said of the panelists, who also include Chris Berman and Steve Young. "I wouldn't have cared if it was the cameraman."

According to USA Today, ESPN chose not to have Jackson, Irvin, and Young comment.

The outcry in Philadelphia might grow when the timing of Limbaugh's remarks is considered: He is scheduled to be in the city Thursday to give a keynote address at the three-day National Association of Broadcasters radio convention.

ESPN spokesman Dave Nagle said Tuesday that with Limbaugh on the show this season, ratings for "Sunday NFL Countdown" are up 10 percent overall, and 26 percent among the 18-to-34 male demographic. Sunday's show drew its biggest audience in the regular season since November 1996.

Limbaugh is best known as the radio host of the conservative, politically focused "Rush Limbaugh Show," which is syndicated in more than 650 markets worldwide.

He spent most of the 1990s assailing then-President Clinton and now spends Sunday mornings talking football, a job he called "the fulfillment of a dream."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: dems; espn; rush; yankees
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To: Finalapproach29er
Why is Kordell Stewart still starting?

Too many football teams. All the talent & teams are watered down now allowing former or should-be bench-riders to be a starter.

The same thing has happened in similar ways to the NBA & MLB.

21 posted on 10/01/2003 3:48:14 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Finalapproach29er
Yes - only because they don't want to throw the new QB into the fire like Dan Reeves did with Elway. But give Chicago a few more losses and Stewart will be the back-up.
22 posted on 10/01/2003 3:49:12 PM PDT by mpreston
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To: SF Republican
This ESPN show was up 10% with Rush. Next week the ratings will go through the roof.

Mission accomplished Rush, Great Job.

23 posted on 10/01/2003 4:00:13 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Current odds on Hillary running in 04.........10-1.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Kordell is a loony liberal's wet dream, a gay, black quarterback!
24 posted on 10/01/2003 4:00:18 PM PDT by got_moab? (racial profiling is my anti-drug)
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To: gdani
McNabb has a $110 million dollar contract and tons of endorsements that other black QB's do not. He was all the talk pre-season, where other black QB's were not. There has always been a butload of McNabb hype because he plays in the eastern media market.
25 posted on 10/01/2003 4:05:14 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: You Dirty Rats
McNabb may be "pretty good" as you say, however the media has hypted him for 3 years as being awesome. The Eagles have been "awesome" on defense for the past few years, however, the QB position has not. Even third stringer Feeley pulled out wins last year while McNabb was out injured. Once Hugh Douglas was lost to FA and the majority of the secondary was banged up, you can only concur that the eagles are an average team. Yes, they beat the bills last Sunday (barely) and that was due to the fact that Buffalo was without any running attack. (Henry out injured). Let's see how Philly does this week at home against the skins!
26 posted on 10/01/2003 4:05:34 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm from Phili. I've never connected McNabb's relative ability to his race, and can understand why he'd be offended at a public remark about it either way.


27 posted on 10/01/2003 4:12:50 PM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: KC_Conspirator
McNabb has a $110 million dollar contract and tons of endorsements that other black QB's do not. He was all the talk pre-season, where other black QB's were not

If you're talking about Kordell, Jeff Blake & Quincy Carter you're right. If you're talking about Michael Vick, Culpepper & Steve McNair you couldn't be more wrong.

There was also *plenty* of hype for white QBs this pre-season too -- Favre, Pennington, Jake Plummer, Kelly Holcomb....

Bottom line -- there was no reason to for Rush to mention race. If there was ------ where is his proof????

28 posted on 10/01/2003 4:14:54 PM PDT by gdani
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To: You Dirty Rats
I agree, in one sense what Rush said was very true. The PC freaks in this country want a great black quarterback very badly, so much so that ANY such QB gets much undeserved play. In addition to Blake and Kordell, look at all the hype surrounding Mike Vick (who has yet to prove anything) and the incredibly underachieving Aaron Brooks. I also so love how because Doug Williams happened to win ONE game in his carreer he should somehow be held up as god's gift to football.
However, McNabb is a better quarterback than all of the ones mentioned above and I don't share Rush's evaluation of his talent. But what seems to be lost here is that Rush like everyone else is entitled to his opinions. Where was this outcry when Dusty Baker made his comments? Most of the guys who played down Baker's comments are probably the ones leading the charge against Rush.
29 posted on 10/01/2003 4:15:30 PM PDT by got_moab? (racial profiling is my anti-drug)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Good assessment. I live in Pa, although not an Eagles fan. McNabb has been hyped way beyond his merit for a few years now. He gets more ink than Tom Brady, who has a Super Bowl win.
30 posted on 10/01/2003 4:19:31 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
RUSH IS THE MAN! Once again many who otherwise might not, will tune in just to hear what he has to say!

Once they listen to his words, the folks will decide who is wrong, who is RIGHT, and who is full of S#IT!

Way to go RUSTY!

31 posted on 10/01/2003 4:20:42 PM PDT by JOE6PAK ("Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."-Hector Berlioz)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
He gets more ink than Tom Brady, who has a Super Bowl win

Tom Brady's a great example of an over-hyped QB.

And if a Super Bowl win is all that it takes to get press then they should all be writing about Trent Dilfer.

32 posted on 10/01/2003 4:21:14 PM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
McNabb is referred to by the media as being an established superstar, whereas most of the guys you mentioned are not.
33 posted on 10/01/2003 4:23:16 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: witnesstothefall
McNabb sounded more offended by the statement that we wasn't as good as the media hyped him to be. Rush said he got credit for games that the defense won. He is right. His only reference to race was to point out that the media elevated McNabb because he is a black QB, NOT because of his abilities.

The bottom line here is that the media, especially sports writers, have been waiting for any excuse to pounce on ESPN and Rush. He gave them a slight opening by being himself and asying something that he would have (and has) said any given day on his radio show. Because they don't view him as a person who knows football, and because 90% of the sports writers are liberal, they want to nail him and get him off the air immediately.

ESPN must not be backing down too much becase they have his mug right next to Michael Irvin on their website's banner at the top of the screen. Obviously they wanted him to boost ratings and he has already done that. This Sunday, they will be astronomical. When that happens, the hand-wringing and cat calls for his firing will hit new levels. I think the more telling story will be what everyone else on the panel says Sunday about this. Rush is used to criticism like this and these guys are not. They are scared when people start flooding their phone lines calling for someone to be fired. (and you can bet the libs will mobilize every whack job in the free world to start calling for his head) I think reaction from Boomer & the rest of the crew will tell the true tale of what may happen next. I half-way expect Irvin to agree with Rush as he generally doesn't care what people think about him.

I guess we'll see, won't we!
34 posted on 10/01/2003 4:24:01 PM PDT by Littlejon
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
McNabb is referred to by the media as being an established superstar, whereas most of the guys you mentioned are not.

That's simply not true. Culpepper, Vick & McNair gets TONS of press.

Last year you couldn't turn on any NFL coverage w/out seeing Vick everywhere.

35 posted on 10/01/2003 4:28:31 PM PDT by gdani
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The CBS/Dan Rather coverage tonight on this was a doozy.

They of course had all the right clips and news, even mentioning that Rush had been hired to be controversial and had increased ratings.

Then Dan took off on how for years and years blacks in youth football had been discouraged from quarterbacking because of low intelligence. That was followed up with the clip of Jimmy the Greek making his famous statement.

36 posted on 10/01/2003 4:30:22 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: gdani
True, but Vick cannot be considered a superstar in reality until he DOES something rather than play great for a part of one season.
37 posted on 10/01/2003 4:31:19 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: Littlejon
They are scared when people start flooding their phone lines calling for someone to be fired.

Heh heh. No they're not. If Rush would have said something truly bonkers he'd be fired by now.

But ESPN will love their ratings for their next show & probably the rest of the season.

They'd rather have P.O.'d callers then no callers. It proves people are watching & will continue to do so.

38 posted on 10/01/2003 4:32:00 PM PDT by gdani
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
True, but Vick cannot be considered a superstar in reality until he DOES something rather than play great for a part of one season.

That has more to do with the fact that he's barely played. He's a very young QB, mind you.

Maybe he'll fizzle, maybe not. But I sure as hell would take him for my team (the Clowns).

39 posted on 10/01/2003 4:33:59 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Littlejon
"The bottom line here is that the media, especially sports writers, have been waiting for any excuse to pounce on ESPN and Rush".

You are so right Bro! I wondered how long it would take. Like a crack in the windshield, it's just gonna get bigger. Rush has to love this!

Props to you Littlejon.

40 posted on 10/01/2003 4:34:57 PM PDT by JOE6PAK ("Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."-Hector Berlioz)
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