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Fátima to become interfaith shrine
The Portugese News ^ | 11/01/03

Posted on 11/06/2003 10:23:05 AM PST by Land of the Irish

Delegates attending the Vatican and United Nations (UN) inspired annual interfaith congress "The Future of God", held during October in Fátima, heard how the Shrine is to be developed into a centre where all the religions of the world will gather to pay homage to their various gods. The Congress was held in the Paul VI Pastoral Centre and presided over by the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon José de Cruz Policarpo.

The Shrine's rector, Monsignor Luciano Guerra, told the Congress that Fátima "will change for the better." Addressing Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Orthodox, Buddhist and African Pagan representatives he stated: "The future of Fátima, or the adoration of God and His mother at this holy Shrine, must pass through the creation of a shrine where different religions can mingle. The inter-religious dialogue in Portugal, and in the Catholic Church, is still in an embryonic phase, but the Shrine of Fátima is not indifferent to this fact and is already open to being a universalistic place of vocation."

The Hindu representative Ansshok Ansraj, described how already in the Far East millions of Hindus are getting "positive vibrations" from visiting Marian shrines without endangering their faith.

Monsignor Guerra pointed out that the very fact that Fátima is the name of a Muslim and Mohammed's daughter, is indicative that the Shrine must be open to the co-existence of various faiths and beliefs. According to the Monsignor: "Therefore we must assume that it was the will of the Blessed Virgin Mary that this comes about this way." Traditional Catholics opposed to the Congress were described by the Monsignor as "old fashioned, narrow minded, fanatic extremists and provocateurs."

For the first time in the 86-year history of Fátima all of the Pagan and Christian delegates were invited to participate in the Ecumenical celebrations. One of the principle speakers, the Jesuit theologian Father Jacques Dupuis, was insistent that the religions of the world must unite. "The religion of the future will be a general converging of religions in a universal Christ that will satisfy all", he said.

The Belgium born theologian argued: "The other religious traditions in the world are part of God's plan for humanity and the Holy Spirit is operating and present in Buddhist, Hindu and other sacred writings of Christian and non-Christian faiths as well." In an impassioned plea he said: "The universality of God's kingdom permits this, and this is nothing more than a diversified form of sharing in the same mystery of salvation. In the end it is hoped that the Christian will become a better Christian and each Hindu a better Hindu."

An official statement put out by the Congress called for a non-proselytising approach by all religions. "No one religion can irradiate another", it said "or strengthen itself by downplaying others and an open dialogue is the way to building bridges and tearing down walls of centuries of hate. What is needed is that each religion be true to its faith integrally and treat each religion on the same footing of equality with no inferior or superiority complexes." It emphasised that the secret to peace amongst all religions is admitting that contradictions exist between creeds but to concentrate on what unites them as opposed to what separates them.

Delegates agreed that religious shrines, including Fátima, should be revamped every 25 years to reflect modern day trends and beliefs. The Shrine of Fátima is about to undergo a complete reconstruction with a new stadium-like basilica being erected close by the existing one built in 1921.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; fatima
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: Truelove; Servus Suus
oh my......
42 posted on 11/06/2003 12:29:56 PM PST by MudPuppy (I live to serve........)
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To: b4its2late
Just a SWAG, but a few years from now, the muslims will want to kick all other religions out of the shrine and call it their own.

Hey! They're regaining a foothold in the areas they lost centuries ago. Woo hoo! Next, on to the Vatican.....

</ sarcasm >

43 posted on 11/06/2003 12:31:50 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sinkspur
This is almost, word for word, what Mother Teresa said.

Source. Please.

44 posted on 11/06/2003 12:32:05 PM PST by NeoCaveman (illegitimati non carborandum)
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To: Maximilian
Horrible if true. However, I don't know anything about this news source, and I have heard nothing from any other source about this conference, and I just did a Google search and could find nothing on it. Therefore, I will withhold judgment until I know the actual facts. I know that the UN-sponsored United Religions Initiative is bad news -- Cardinal Arinze I think it was went to one of their interfaith conferences, where Ted Turner gave a speech trashing Christianity. The Cardinal criticized the whole thing.
45 posted on 11/06/2003 12:37:25 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: TaurusUK
All I want is a few chickens and the odd toad.

If local law prevents you from sacrificing live chickens you can always just get a bucket of Extra Crispy from KFC.

47 posted on 11/06/2003 12:41:49 PM PST by NeoCaveman (illegitimati non carborandum)
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To: dubyaismypresident
From Mother Teresa's "A Simple Path":

"I love all religions. ... If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there."

48 posted on 11/06/2003 12:44:35 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: livius
This is truly appalling, and don't let the frequently rather offensive Mr. Sinkspur distract us from the real problem here, which has nothing to do with what Mother Teresa may or may not have thought.

It is rude to mention someone in a post and not ping them.

You were saying...about being offensive?

49 posted on 11/06/2003 12:46:28 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Domestic Church
Since Portugal is the one place where the faith was to remain intact I guess we are very near the end.

Anyone with eyes can see that the faith is not intact in Portugal.

50 posted on 11/06/2003 12:53:24 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: sinkspur
I'd like proof of that. From everything she said, she did not proselytize, as she would have had no credibility with Hindus.

No, she did try to convert people. But if they were not interested, she did not force the issue or make her care conditional.

51 posted on 11/06/2003 12:56:14 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: livius
on the wall I saw a bizarre symbol that appears to be all of the symbols of the major religions sort of circling around together

United Religions Initiative:

The United Religions Initiative - Foundation for a World Religion

52 posted on 11/06/2003 1:06:47 PM PST by ckca
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To: sinkspur
The universality of God's kingdom permits this, and this is nothing more than a diversified form of sharing in the same mystery of salvation. In the end it is hoped that the Christian will become a better Christian and each Hindu a better Hindu."

"I love all religions. ... If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there."

Almost the same? One reeks of indifference and the other about bringing people to Christ through acts of love.

53 posted on 11/06/2003 1:07:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman (illegitimati non carborandum)
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To: George W. Bush; RnMomof7; katnip; FormerLib
FYI ping.
54 posted on 11/06/2003 1:33:36 PM PST by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: b4its2late
In a few years the Muslims will claim it was always a Muslim shrine, and will threaten to kill any non muslim who dares enters it.
55 posted on 11/06/2003 1:40:53 PM PST by redgolum (I should know better than to post on Calvin threads......)
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To: ckca
Ah, yes! That's the very one.

BTW, the "United Religions Iniative" is very big among Episcopalians on the West Coast. I know because I have a ditzy elderly Episcopalian relative who is just thrilled by it It's being heavily promoted by the aptly named Bishop Swing, of the ECUSA.
56 posted on 11/06/2003 1:51:06 PM PST by livius
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To: sinkspur
"I'd like proof of that. From everything she said, she did not proselytize, as she would have had no credibility with Hindus. In fact, I don't recall her ever indicating that she was engaged in actively converting Hindus."

Now do tell me, sinkspur, what kind of "blessed" Catholic nun would be more concerned with her personal 'credibility' with Hindus than with evangelizing them?

57 posted on 11/06/2003 2:10:15 PM PST by TheCrusader
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To: MarMema
Delegates attending the Vatican and United Nations (UN) inspired annual interfaith congress "The Future of God", held during October in Fátima, heard how the Shrine is to be developed into a centre where all the religions of the world will gather to pay homage to their various gods.

I think the name of the convention, "The Future of God" is funny. As if these creatures control His destiny. I wonder if God is chuckling over these humans plans for his future.

I do not think it a bad thing to invite people of all faiths to a holy place. Miracles can occur and hardened hearts opened. However, to say that all religions should be welcome to pay homage to their various gods at a Christian Holy site just gives me the shivers.

What really do you think that will mean? Will they have statues of Budda and Zeus and Odin and the various Hindu gods for people to worship? Maybe a piece of meteorite?

Count me out of this creepy idea.

58 posted on 11/06/2003 2:35:24 PM PST by katnip (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains)
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To: sinkspur
So, were the apostles evil for proseltyzing?
59 posted on 11/06/2003 3:02:30 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway
No. And, don't be silly.
60 posted on 11/06/2003 3:06:52 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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