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Mel Gibson Where Art Thou? "The Passion of The Christ"
Rebbe With a Cause ^ | Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 02/06/2004 8:52:10 AM PST by joobers

Mel, Where Art Thou? The once-admirable Gibson is staking his career on portraying Jews as demonic god-killers.

Has the real Mel Gibson been kidnapped by space aliens, leaving a Jew-hating, racist body-double in his place?

Remember the days when Mel was running around shooting people with Danny Glover in "Lethal Weapon," making us all feel warm and cuddly about an intimate, on-screen friendship between a white man and a black man? Is this the same Mel Gibson who has now staked a huge amount of his wealth and all of his Hollywood prestige on making a movie that portrays Jews as demonic god-killers? Is it the same Mel who, in the upcoming March Reader’s Digest, shockingly told Peggy Noonan, when she asked him whether the Holocaust happened, "Yes of course. Atrocities happened. War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century 20 million people died in the Soviet Union." Is he really so insensitive as to equate horrible casualties of war with a government program of genocide that turned more than six million people into ash, soap, and lampshades?

I once greatly admired Mel Gibson not only as a quality actor but as a quality human being. He was one of the few Hollywood celebrities who seemed devoted to his wife and family, and as a father of seven, I had great admiration for another father of seven who saw the blessing, rather than the burden, of having lots of kids. As a religious man, I was greatly inspired by his commitment to his Catholicism.

But all that is behind me now. Because whether Mel hit his head against a rock, or just decided to follow in the footsteps of his Holocaust-denying, anti-Semitic father, the Mel Gibson who first charmed us as an innocent-looking Australian soldier in Gallipoli seems gone forever. In his place has arisen a kooky religious fundamentalist who seems intent on reversing the reforms of Vatican II, which officially absolved the Jews of deicide, and who seems intent on convincing the world that, indeed, the Jews killed Jesus.

If I were a high-profile person and was asked to comment on my father's statement in The New York Times Magazine last year that the "Second Vatican Council was a plot put out by the Jews," or on the idea that the Holocaust could not have happened because, as Hutton Gibson's wife says, "there weren't even that many Jews in all of Europe," I would shout from the rooftops that I love my dad, but that doesn't excuse his being a racist.

Instead, Mel has yet to publicly distance himself from his father's Jew-hating tirades. Contrast this with Arnold Schwarzenegger, who reacted to the news of his father's Nazi past by petitioning the Simon Wiesenthal Center to probe whether his father committed atrocities. Schwarzenegger went further and publicly denounced the Austrian far-right politician Joerg Haider, who praised Hitler's SS troops.

There may be a way to honor your parents while distancing yourself from their more extreme positions, but Gibson hasn’t found it. After Frank Rich wrote in the New York Times that Gibson was using "P.R. spin to defend a Holocaust denier [his father]” Gibson, in the Sept. 15th, 2003 issue of the New Yorker, said of Frank Rich, "I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick....I want to kill his dog." Gibson explains in the article, "I don't want to be dissing my father. He never denied the Holocaust; he just said there were fewer than six million. I don't want to have them dissing my father. I mean, he's my father."

Very recently, Mel made one concession--he's now agreed to delete from the movie an especially offensive scene in which the Jewish high priest, Caiaphas, calls down a kind of curse on the Jewish people by declaring of the Crucifixion, "His blood be on us and on our children."

But did Gibson really want to do this? According to the New Yorker article, Gibson talked about the scene earlier last year. "I wanted it in.…My brother said I was wimping out if I didn't include it. It happened; it was said, but man, if I included that in there, they'd be coming after me at my house, they'd come kill me." However, it now appears that Gibson removed the scene because it didn't do well in focus screenings with priests and ministers. "Maybe it was thought to be too hurtful, or taken not in the way it was intended,” said an anonymous Gibson associate, quoted in the New York Times. “It has been used terribly over the years.”

While Mel may be prepared to do Jews the favor of deleting a single offensive scene, the whole anti-Semitic message is odious. Is there really a more serious charge against a people than that they killed G-d? Saying the Jews killed Jesus is to make every Jew the anti-Christ, possessed of dark, demonic forces. Is it surprising that this charge has led to the slaughter of so many Jews? Would any moral person have a problem killing Satan?

The simple and undeniable fact is that the Jews did not kill Jesus. He was condemned in a Roman court on a Roman charge, and put to death by a method of execution only used by the Romans, just as the two leading historians of the time, Josephus and Tacitus, expressly maintain. Jesus was put to death by Pontius Pilate, known as the Saddam Hussein of his time, a murderer of unspeakable cruelty. As I wrote in an earlier piece, “The idea that Pilate would take orders from the Jews about who should live and who should die is not just implausible but laughable.”

I believe that the movie should be boycotted not just by Jews but by every decent person who hates bigotry.

I am at a loss to explain the silence on the part of Hollywood's Jewish celebrities and media moguls to Mel's movie. The Jews’ being responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus is the biggest and most destructive lie in the history of the world. Why aren't people like Steven Spielberg protesting the film’s horrible message of anti-Semitism? Where is Barbra Streisand--so vocal in her attacks on Republicans--on a movie that portrays her people as deicidal villains? Are Hollywood's Jewish celebrities afraid to criticize the movie because it's “art,” even when that art brings to life a story that has been responsible for the slaughter of our people for centuries?

Calling someone an anti-Semite is about as big an insult as one can hurl, and I for one am forever careful in its usage. But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. If a man comes along who isn't prepared to acknowledge the special crime of the Holocaust, makes a movie portraying Jews as evil god-killers, and is prepared to risk his illustrious career for the making of that movie--well, quack, quack!

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/139/story_13975.html

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/139/story_13975_1.html


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1 posted on 02/06/2004 8:52:11 AM PST by joobers
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To: joobers
Where is the barf alert?
2 posted on 02/06/2004 9:17:10 AM PST by Between the Lines
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To: joobers
The truth of the Gospel is always going to be offensive to some:

1 Cor. 1:21-25 (ESV)
For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. [22] For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, [23] but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, [24] but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. [25] For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Mel Gibson is not an "anti-semite", this is shown in the fact that his only on screen role in the film is as the hand holding the nails. He knows that it was Mel Gibson, in his sin, who nailed Christ to the cross, and not the Jews or Romans alone.


3 posted on 02/06/2004 9:26:28 AM PST by Jerry_M (I can only say that I am a poor sinner, trusting in Christ alone for salvation. -- Gen. Robt E. Lee)
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To: joobers
It hurt my eyes to look at this article, so I might have missed it, but does this guy claim to have actually seen the movie?

Sed it before, and I'll say it again: Satan *really* has his panties in a wad over this movie.

Well done, Mr. Gibson.
4 posted on 02/06/2004 9:38:22 AM PST by dsc
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To: joobers
dear rabbi, If you knew anything about christ, or those who follow him, you would know we are commanded to love our jewish brothers. Alas, you make the same mistake your forefathers made. Are you sure your not just upset because we call him the messiah?
5 posted on 02/06/2004 9:42:57 AM PST by barkingdog
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To: joobers
Amazing the level of ignorance demonstrated here, no?
6 posted on 02/06/2004 9:44:52 AM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: Jerry_M
I hadn't heard it was Gibson's hand holding the nails.

He's a very intelligent man.

7 posted on 02/06/2004 9:47:02 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: joobers; Jerry_M
kooky religious fundamentalist

It's a sad day when the 2,000-year-old Gospel story of Jesus Christ's death is labeled "kooky."

8 posted on 02/06/2004 9:51:42 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: joobers
"Is there really a more serious charge against a people than that they killed G-d? Saying the Jews killed Jesus is to make every Jew the anti-Christ, possessed of dark, demonic forces."

He obviously isn't much of a Talmudic scholar either. The Talmud states clearly that it was the Jewish authorities who arranged the trial and campaigned for Jesus' death. Are the authors of the Talmud anti-semites too?

"In his place has arisen a kooky religious fundamentalist who seems intent on reversing the reforms of Vatican II, which officially absolved the Jews of deicide, and who seems intent on convincing the world that, indeed, the Jews killed Jesus."

The Jews are just as culpable of deicide as the rest of us sinners out here. Why does this guy think they get a pass from humanity's common condition of sinfulness before GOD?

The Blood of Jesus will always be both a blessing and a curse. A blessing for those who receive Him and a curse for those who reject Him.
9 posted on 02/06/2004 10:17:33 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Tantumergo
Mel Gibson and the Holocaust

Jews who want to crucify Mel Gibson (producer/director of the new movie "The Passion of Christ") for remarks putting the Holocaust in context are wrong.

The Nazis killed 6 million Jews in concentration camps and rural ditches. The Nazis also killed 6 million disabled, gays, Roma (gypsies), and political opponents. They worked slave labourers from the East to death. These are no less crimes than killing Jews.

In the 20th century, more millions of civilians died in the USSR, Cambodia, China, Ruanda-Burundi, India, Pakistan, the Balkans, and many other places, deliberately killed because of their religion, race, class, caste, tribe or political leanings.

In millennia past, many more victims were massacred by conquerors. Jews have no monopoly on suffering, Nazis no monopoly on terror.

It is wrong everywhere whenever people are suspected and persecuted because of their religion, race, class, caste, tribe or political leanings. We must recognise and fight any such tendency in other countries, and especially in our own country and our own heart.

http://www.paktribune.com/news/print.php?id=53814&PHPSESSID=f402962949ca2afdc65219ba717bcd5b

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=53814

tOM Trottier
Ottawa ON Canada
TTrottier@Abacurial.com
10 posted on 02/06/2004 10:21:58 AM PST by joobers
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To: joobers
"These are no less crimes than killing Jews."

Why not? Are you a holocaust denier too? //sarcasm off//
11 posted on 02/06/2004 11:18:00 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: joobers
Saying the Jews killed Jesus is to make every Jew the anti-Christ,....

No it doesn't.

Besides Shmuley, YOU'RE the one saying "the Jews" (thereby implying all Jews) killed Jesus. Mel never said that.

Another "rebbe" making strawman arguments.

12 posted on 02/06/2004 11:33:44 AM PST by TotusTuus
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To: Tantumergo
What about those jews, such as, john,paul,peter,matthew, mark, etc. etc. etc
13 posted on 02/06/2004 12:16:54 PM PST by barkingdog
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To: joobers
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach - with apologies to Shirley Ellis (Name game)

Boteach!

oteach, oteach, Fanna nana nana Oteach

Fee fy Oteach, Botaech.

I can't take any Rabid-Rabbi,Messiah-Denying, Christian-bigot, seriously.

14 posted on 02/06/2004 2:39:28 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: barkingdog
"What about those jews, such as, john,paul,peter,matthew, mark, etc. etc. etc"

Nothing but rotten dirty holocaust deniers - every one of them. And as for Jesus - he wasn't the Messiah, he was just a very naughty boy!
15 posted on 02/06/2004 4:50:12 PM PST by Tantumergo
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To: joobers
I checked out some of this guy's articles on Beliefnet, and he's not a kook. He seems to be an intelligent, well reasoned columnist.

What I think we are witnessing is a group of people who are allowing their cultural paranoia, which is quite understandable considering their history, to cloud their judgment in the matter of this film.

The idea of a visual recounting of the Gospel inciting modern Christians to animosity toward or violence against Jews is nutty, totally out of touch with reality.

The modern anti-semites are moslems and their leftist soul-mates, and they're not going to view this film.
16 posted on 02/07/2004 12:19:44 AM PST by Jeff Chandler
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To: joobers
"Calling someone an anti-Semite is about as big an insult as one can hurl, and I for one am forever careful in its usage."

Sure.

"In his place has arisen a kooky religious fundamentalist who seems intent on reversing the reforms of Vatican II, which officially absolved the Jews of deicide, and who seems intent on convincing the world that, indeed, the Jews killed Jesus."

But a calumny seems to be just fine with you.


17 posted on 02/07/2004 5:32:45 AM PST by OpusatFR (Hillary's health care means culling the herd to keep down costs.)
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To: Catholicguy
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach - with apologies to Shirley Ellis (Name game)
Boteach!
oteach, oteach, Fanna nana nana Oteach
Fee fy Oteach, Botaech.

ROFLMAO!

I can't take any Rabid-Rabbi,Messiah-Denying,
Christian-bigot, seriously.

I'm with you there all the way brother!  FReegards.
18 posted on 02/07/2004 8:37:47 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Jeff Chandler
I checked out some of this guy's articles on Beliefnet, and he's not a kook. He seems to be an intelligent, well reasoned columnist.

What I think we are witnessing is a group of people who are allowing their cultural paranoia, which is quite understandable considering their history, to cloud their judgment in the matter of this film.


And *who* or *what* would be responsible for this clouding of judgement?  Hmmmmm.
He began to teach them
that the Son of Man must suffer greatly
and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests, and the scribes,
and be killed, and rise after three days.
He spoke this openly.
Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him.
At this he turned around and, looking at his disciples,
rebuked Peter and said, "Get behind me, Satan.
You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do."
While Mel may be prepared to do Jews the favor of deleting a single offensive scene, the whole anti-Semitic message is odious.

The message that matters, a part of which Gibson is trying to relay, is "I am the messiah" and it is THE GOOD NEWS found in the New Testament.  Why those who don't believe can't just live with it and get over this fact is absolutely beyond my comprehension.  Get lost rabbi... your hateful and slanderous words are *nothing* compared to Christ's!

19 posted on 02/07/2004 8:46:11 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Jeff Chandler
Rabbi Boteach seems to have kept some interesting company.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/forum/main/read.php?f=1&i=2718&t=2718

20 posted on 02/07/2004 1:38:02 PM PST by Greg Luzinski
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