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To: olde north church
Change Direction - Vatican II was an attempt to make more palatable. It failed miserably. People want to know there is one core on which to depend, Vatican II took that away from them as well.

That's your opinion. IMO, Vatican II was necessary to remove the "fortress mentality" that surrounded the Church prior to 1962.

47 posted on 02/20/2004 6:39:35 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
The "fortress mentality" you decry was actually a refuge from the world's corruption. Now the Church is as worldly as the secular culture, thanks to Vatican II--and just as corrupt.
113 posted on 02/20/2004 8:20:14 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: sinkspur
Ah yes, the ole "fortress mentality" reasoning. And opening the doors to the outside--look at the wonderful results. More will be displayed in the press on Friday. "By their fruits, you shall know them."
328 posted on 02/24/2004 11:46:43 AM PST by Mershon
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