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To: Salvation
Tsk, tsk! Well, you have your heretics and we have ours. :O)

There are many holes in Dr. Scott Hahn’s beliefs and “conversion” that I won’t take the time to discuss. From independent sources it appears Dr. Scott Hahn is a loose cannon at best. This was the same conclusion I came to in reading this article. As only one example in his testimony he says,

“They read more Scripture, I thought, in a weekday Mass than we read in a Sunday service.”

This is an astounding statement since these are the same Sunday services he was pasturing. One would hope that if this was the case he would have included more scripture in his sermons. There are many more of these “weird” assertions throughout this testimony.

I know this may seem like a Protestant (a Calvinist no less) bashing a Catholic but his doctrine and beliefs seem to be erratic and the examples are too numerous to mention here. But as one example, in his Protestants days he was involved with a hard-core Arminian youth group while professing to be a Calvinist. Now he’s involved with charismatic Catholics and his Catholic beliefs and teachings are suspect at best. Please do not take my word for it but see the following Catholic website:

http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/hahndebate.asp

I was going to post it but it is 82 pages long.

4 posted on 03/12/2004 6:06:48 AM PST by HarleyD (READ Your Bible-STUDY to show yourself approved)
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To: HarleyD
in his Protestants days he was involved with a hard-core Arminian youth group while professing to be a Calvinist. Now he’s involved with charismatic Catholics

Because he's changed his mind you now consider him suspect? After all, the two greatest heretics of all time, Luther and Calvin, changed their minds.

6 posted on 03/12/2004 6:25:25 AM PST by autopsy
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To: HarleyD
**pasturing.**

I think he was pastoring.
21 posted on 03/12/2004 9:51:14 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: HarleyD
Harley, that page you posted is from Bob Sungenis' website. Bob has his own problems. I'd lay them out for you, but here is neither the time nor the place.

Dr. Hahn is a professor of Scripture at Franciscan University of Steubenville. Steubenville is one of the few Catholic schools on this continent where the entire theology faculty takes an oath to be obedient to the Roman magisterium. If Dr. Hahn were heterodox in any significant way, he's already on record saying he's bound to obey the order to change his teachings.

Bob Sungenis is a lay apologist. He runs his own apologetics apostolate, responsible to nobody but himself. The fact that he calls it "Catholic Apologetics International" does not prove anything about its orthodoxy or reliability.

Going to Bob Sungenis to trash Scott Hahn mostly just proves that some people disagree with Scott Hahn. But we all already knew that.

34 posted on 03/12/2004 10:24:23 AM PST by Campion
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To: HarleyD
There are many Catholic bashing sites on the Internet and I have been on many of them. I have been apologetic for the Church because of mis-informed opinions. In the majority of anti-Catholic treads, I have quoted Scott Hahn's statements and I have yet to read a response to what Mr. Hahn presents. It seems to leave the respondent at a loss for answers.

Too many anti-apologests live by the one verse answers syndrome. All they have to do is read before and after these verses to put the whole text in perspective.

Regarding a female satan Gibson has said that satan comes as somewhat of an attractive tempress. My own opinion is that Gibson and Caviezel are both dedicated to the Blessed Mother. You will notice satan and Mary dressed similarly.

The scene with the baby is text book for Madonna and Child depicted by Raphael.

And less we forget, Luther and Calvin did not walk away form the Church, They were excommunicated.

Luther thought so highly of the Catholic faith, he continued using the Catholic Bible. He said it was the truth so let us keep it.
46 posted on 03/12/2004 11:28:29 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: HarleyD
“They read more Scripture, I thought, in a weekday Mass than we read in a Sunday service.”

There are many more of these “weird” assertions throughout this testimony.

"Weird" it may be to you. But it is also "true". I've attended services several times (sometimes dozens) each at Presbyterian, Methodist, Charismatic/Evangelical nondenominational, and almost every flavor of Baptist. There is no question that they do "read more Scripture" at a liturgical church (including Lutheran, Anglican/Episcopalian and Orthodox) than at any of the other churches.

Now, an attendee at you're average "Baptist" church will likely hear appreciably more preaching about Scripture, but not "more Scripture". Too often it's cherry-picked verses in three or four places to support a point.

76 posted on 03/13/2004 4:37:20 AM PST by IMRight
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To: HarleyD
Thanks for that Website link. I was looking for a critical review of Hahn's approach to scripture and this one looks well researched.
191 posted on 03/15/2004 6:40:23 AM PST by Varda
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