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To: narses
"The spirit of lawlessness came in with the Reformation, and Liberalism is its offspring."
- John Henry Cardinal Newman
3 posted on 04/13/2004 3:50:08 PM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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To: polemikos
The spirit of lawlessness is catholic idolatry of intercession/veneration of saints and it's sexual immorality of homosexual and fornicating priests and nuns and bashing of Christians as you heretic catholics do. Catholic response to reformation is known as counter-reformation.Since reformation was christian,counter reformation can only be anti-christian.After the reformation of 16th century catholics started Jesuit secret militia founded by Ignatious Layola to destroy christianity.Incidently the name of the society was “society of Jesus” aka Jesuits.From birth of catholicism(around AD350) it was the most potent antichristian organization in the world which did everything through the power of satan, to keep people from knowing the truth.They didn’t allow common people to read bible and know the truth until about the 15th century reformation. Before going into counter reformation activities of catholicism let’s go back into history and check, why i said catholicism is anti christian.They(catholics) did idolatry by changing names of old pagan idols to ‘christian’ sounding names and praying and worshiping using these idols(intercession of saints).They taught anyone who is a member of catholicism can do any grevious sin or evil and still enter heaven through purgatory.They taught sins are forgiven by attending eucharist,when christ Jesus and apostles taught only one who has repented of his sins and accepted Jesus as his saviour and has undergone water baptism after the repentence,should receive eucharist(lords supper,holy qurbana,holy communion).Even after repentence if a person backslide he must come back to god in repentence and be cleansed by the blood of Jesus to take part in eucharist.that is only those who are right with god can attend eucharist.If a person who does’nt satisfy above requirments takepart in eucharist,he is sinning against God and sickness and curse shall befall such a person. Catholics massacred early christians saying they were dualistic(those who worshiped both God and satan) pagan heretics like followers of mani(3rd-15th century),early arab and north african christians like danatists,arian christians aka gothic christians3rd-6th century),paulicians,bogomils(6th-12th century,massacred by catholic crusaders en route to jerusalem by secret directive from vatican and perhaps the real aim of the crusades),waldensians(12th century-to present day),cathars(12th-14th century,massacred in albunesian/cathar crusade) and finally protestantS/reformed church(15th century-to present day). Coming back to counter reformation activities of catholics,it started under the leadership of Ignatious layolola,with the name of ‘Jesus’ but working against him.Catholics made another secret organization which will be under their total control inorder to have better infiltaration among protestants.Since intend of Jesuits was more public and most protestants knew they were working against them,it was necessary to create another secret agency to infiltrate protestants and destroy their society and it was called freemasonry(this Jesuit-Freemason link is a highly probable logical assumption based on the historical and cultural evidences .Solid proof may never be obtained as these are secret societies born to decieve mankind and instill them with fear and hatred).This secret society is christian(protestant) superficialy by harping on the words like ‘great architect of universe’,but on inside it will be purely anti christian totally controlled by catholics. Thus protestants will be attracted to this society,and those who become members will be trained by catholic Jesuits to destroy christianity,by teaching them feminism(lie that men and women are created/evolved equal in all aspects -truth is woman are created as help mates and companion for men) and secularism(true biblical government should give freedom of conscience rather than freedom of “false” religion that blaspheme the living God). Thus most of the founding fathers of USA are freemasons,and today USA has only 50% christians compared to 99% in 1790AD.While the numder of pagans who fake as christians(catholics and orthodox) has risen to 25% from less than 1% in 1790.George Washington said in USA every child would be taught the Bible in scools,but everybody knows exactly opposite happened.Why?.George Washington along with most of the founding fathers were freemasons,who are/were a mere puppets in the hand of catholic counter reformation activists.Abraham lincoln although not a memeber of any church,was a believer.He said just before his death,that civil war and feminist movement was the work of catholic Jesuits,and few days after he said this he was assasinated by Jesuit catholics. Catholics(Jesuits) taught freemasons and co-masons(womens wing of freemasonry) that women were oppressed by men and Jesus came to release them from protection and control of males,so they can go out and do anything they want(feminism).Thus they became pioneering feminists(suffragists) of protestant lands.When in reality Christ Jesus and apostles taught women to obey and respect their husbands as church obeys and worships Jesus.They also taught Men to be chivalrous and sacrifice themselves for their wives as christ sacrificed on the cross for all who would believe. Thus within a few years Protestant women started cutting their long hair and started wearing mens dresses to look like men, started disobeying their husbands and teaching and having authority over men,thinking it is the ‘christian’ thing to do,when in reality slowly but steadily they were unknowingly destroying their own society through gender role reversal and thereby spreading sexual immorality.The main reason for great depression of 2008 which started in USA was feminist lie which promoted a lifestyle of excessive spending,without any real savings. I say all these things because counter reformation will not prevail because of the prophecy of Jesus-“i shall build my church(protestant) on this rock(the revelation given to apostle peter that Jesus is the only eternal son of almighty God,not the degrading dead body of peter buried under vatican as catholics claim/believe)and gates of hell(catholicism and oter false religions/ideologies) will not prevail over it”. Very soon in the near future WW3(gog magog war -ezekiel 38) will start.After the war only true religion of god(the gods church-true christianity-non feminist protestantism) will exist in earth.All other religions which didnot acknowledge their creator and kept mankind in dark(catholicism,islam,hinduism and all other fake religions) will be destroyed.After the war all people living on earth will be members of Gods church-true religion and it shall be a golden age(very prosperous) for all mankind till the coming of christ. After the war The 3rd temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem and it shall be called “the house of prayer for people of all nations” exactly as Jesus predicted nearly 2000 years ago.Animal and other sacrifices will be offered there in the tribute of the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross,just as it symbolized the coming sacrifice of Christ in the old testament period.This will remain till coming of Jesus Christ ( rapture) . In rapture believers will be taken and hypocrites left behind to face great tribulation(such as never happened before or never will in the future) which will last for 7 years.In the half of this 7 year period antichrist will break his agreement with jews and put up the awful horror inthe holy temple.He will require all to have number 666 imprinted on them to buy or sell.Those who get this mark of 666 are damned for eternal hell.So anybody who happens to be in tribulation period,want salvation he/she has to die as martyrs or get the mark of christ(144,000 people). Counter-reformation did’nt start in 17th century,but way back in 4th century at the birth of catholicism,just as the true reformed ,protestant church was in existense from new testament times(AD30-70) as the apostolic church.Take a look at how vatican vainly planned to destroy the God’s church(non feminist protestantism) that almighty living God was/is building. ‘A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment. She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael. Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah,, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad’s advisor. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad. ‘Teachers were sent to young Muhammad and he had intensive training. Muhammad studied the works of St. Augustine which prepared him for his “great calling.” The Vatican had Catholic Arabs across North Africa spread the story of a great one who was about to rise up among the people and be the chosen one of their God. ‘While Muhammad was being prepared, he was told that his enemies were the Jews and that the only true Christians were Roman Catholic. He was taught that others calling themselves Christians were actually wicked impostors and should be destroyed. Many Muslims believe this. ‘Muhammad began receiving “divine revelations” and his wife’s Catholic cousin Waraquah helped interpret them. From this came the Koran. In the fifth year of Muhammad’s mission, persecution came against his followers because they refused to worship the idols in the Kaaba. ‘Muhammad instructed some of them to flee to Abysinnia where Negus, the Roman Catholic king accepted them because Muhammad’s views on the virgin Mary were so close to Roman Catholic doctrine. These Muslims received protection from Catholic kings because of Muhammad’s revelations. ‘Muhammad later conquered Mecca and the Kaaba was cleared of idols. History proves that before Islam came into existence, the Sabeans in Arabia worshiped the moon-god who was married to the sun-god. They gave birth to three goddesses who were worshipped throughout the Arab world as “Daughters of Allah” An idol excavated at Hazor in Palestine in 1950′s shows Allah sitting on a throne with the crescent moon on his chest. ‘Muhammad claimed he had a vision from Allah and was told, “You are the messenger of Allah.” This began his career as a prophet and he received many messages. By the time Muhammad died, the religion of Islam was exploding. The nomadic Arab tribes were joining forces in the name of Allah and his prophet, Muhammad. ‘Some of Muhammad’s writings were placed in the Koran, others were never published. They are now in the hands of high ranking holy men in the Islamo-catholic faith. This is further confirmed by verses in Quran and Hadith which says only one group of christians have remained true and they can be identified by their celibate leadership(which only Catholics have atleast for namesake).In one verse in Quran it says Christians are the best freinds of Muslims and in other verses it says Christians,Jews and all Pagans are their enemies.Thus it becomes clear that according to Quran and Hadith muslims can befriend only catholic heretics/liars/idolaters in this world.All over the world it’s a reality that only group with which muslims peacefully coexist is catholics-because catholics are their masters. Also Quran says that Jesus will come in last days to join muslims with ‘true’ christians(catholics). So all these facts only point to the reality that Catholicism might indeed be behind the creation of Islam.
61 posted on 12/14/2014 5:49:10 AM PST by Jason Neo
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To: polemikos
"The spirit of lawlessness came in with the Reformation, and Liberalism is its offspring." - John Henry Cardinal Newman

Then why are RCs overall liberal in contrast to those who hold most strongly to Scripture being the wholly inspired, accurate and basically literal word of God, while the most liberal Prots are closest to Rome?

73 posted on 12/14/2014 11:51:26 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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