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CATHEDRAL OF ST. PAUL: Lay group attempts to block Eucharist
Saint Paul Pioneer Press ^ | May 31, 2004 | Stephen Scott

Posted on 05/31/2004 9:03:06 AM PDT by Snuffington

Roman Catholic laymen formed a quasi-barricade at the Cathedral of St. Paul on Sunday, forcing gay-rights supporters to step over, around and through them to receive Holy Communion.

As the extraordinary action unfolded, men broke out in spontaneous prayer, women wept and the presiding priest shifted back and forth in an attempt to offer the Communion host to those coming forward.

What is typically an orderly line of communicants became jumbled along the center aisle, as a group calling itself Ushers of the Eucharist knelt and blocked a direct path to the priest.

No one appeared to be denied Communion, and no physical altercations were reported.

Although some bishops of the Catholic Church have debated whether it is appropriate to deny Holy Eucharist to those opposed to church teachings, it was 35 laymen on Sunday who confronted fellow laypeople during Communion.

About 2,000 people attended the Mass, roughly twice the normal attendance of a noon Mass at the Cathedral, spokeswoman Sheryl Rose said. No mention was made of the gay-rights issue during any part of the Mass.

About 80 people wearing rainbow-colored sashes attended the Mass, an annual worldwide practice of gay-rights advocates in many Catholic churches on Pentecost Sunday — the day Christians celebrate the Holy Spirit and the founding of the church.

The Rainbow Sash Alliance says that by wearing the sashes to Mass, it seeks to increase the awareness of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics in the church and calls for a dialogue with church leaders.

Rainbow Sash members have been denied Communion in some dioceses for making a political statement during the Mass. In Chicago, priests at Holy Name Cathedral refused Sunday to give the Eucharist to about 10 people wearing the sashes.

An internal memo from Chicago Cardinal Francis George that became public last week, instructing priests not to give Communion to people wearing the sashes, says the sashes are a symbol of opposition to church doctrine on homosexuality and exploit the Communion ritual.

The Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, however, said in a statement it would not deny Communion to those wearing sashes because "members of this group have previously assured us, in writing, that their attendance at the annual Pentecost Mass … is not in protest of the Church's teachings.''

That is what prompted a group — Ushers of the Eucharist — led by layman David Pence, 56, to gather Sunday to keep those wearing the sash from the Communion table.

"Those who object ask how we can disobey the bishop's authority,'' Pence said. "The bishop has abdicated his authority. That's the problem in the Catholic Church.

"Bishops have not protected the flock from this large predator movement of sexual dissent and homosexuality in the priesthood and in the church bureaucracy.''

Some members of Pence's group began reciting the Hail Mary at the priest's feet as he attempted to serve Communion.

As they did so, sisters Anne and Sarah Kosel of St. Paul, both 21 and regular worshippers at the Cathedral, wept in the second row. They were not identified with either group.

"The Eucharist is not a war zone,'' Sarah Kosel said afterward. "This is our church, and an attempt to block the Eucharist should be the last place to demonstrate.

"We didn't think it would be this bad.''

Regina Martino of Afton came to Mass specifically to support Pence's group and decided to kneel next to them.

"I just saw (Rainbow Sash members) were getting through, so I tried to kneel and block a spot,'' Martino said. "I don't feel they have a right to come and disrupt the most sacred part of what Catholics believe in.''

Pence conceded some worshippers considered his group's actions disruptive, too.

"I apologize to those who feel we disrupted Mass,'' Pence said. "But the weakness of the bishops in responding to this very aggressive social movement has to be responded to with courage, even if it's from laymen.''

Pence's group chose not to receive Communion.

Members of his group engaged in discussions — some heated — with Rainbow Sash members outside the Cathedral before Mass.

"Confrontation is difficult,'' Rainbow Sash organizer Brian McNeill of Minneapolis said afterward. "I'm stunned these men feel like they know the state of my soul. They told me I need to go to confession. The fact is how could they know the last time I went to confession? They simply don't know.''

Meanwhile, nearly 100 people prayed the rosary on the Cathedral steps before the Mass. Calling themselves Catholics Against Sacrilege, the group in a statement said Rainbow Sash members should adhere to church teaching declaring that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.''

"They're praying for us over there. I'm praying for them,'' said Pepper Wolf of Red Wing, as she put on a rainbow sash about 100 feet away. "I believe Catholic social teaching says all people deserve respect and dignity.''

In a private interview, the presiding priest, Monsignor James Habiger, said there is a place for protest and opinion, but not at the Eucharist. "Let's not be injurious to the integrity of the religious service,'' he said.

A letter from the Cathedral rector, the Rev. Michael Skluzacek, was given to all worshippers as they arrived, alerting them to the possibility of protest or disruption. He asked worshippers to pray that "nothing will occur here that takes our focus off our worship.''

His letter also asked prayers for "all those who, well intentioned though they may be, are mistakenly using the Mass and the Eucharist to make their own personal statements.''


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KEYWORDS: bishops; catholiclist; gay; gaypride; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lesbian; mass; prisoners; queer; sodomites; sodomy
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"Those who object ask how we can disobey the bishop's authority,'' Pence said. "The bishop has abdicated his authority. That's the problem in the Catholic Church.

"Bishops have not protected the flock from this large predator movement of sexual dissent and homosexuality in the priesthood and in the church bureaucracy.''

1 posted on 05/31/2004 9:03:07 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Polycarp IV; Maximilian

ping


2 posted on 05/31/2004 9:03:51 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: NYer

ping for your list


3 posted on 05/31/2004 9:15:44 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Snuffington
a sad bump.

What a mess. I was surprised to see that all of the letters in this week's National Catholic REGISTER supported taking NO action on the Holy Communion debate.

4 posted on 05/31/2004 9:21:52 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Snuffington; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; ...

Sad Pentecost ping. The Amchurch schism marches on.


5 posted on 05/31/2004 9:38:23 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Snuffington

From what I understand, the Cathedral in St. Paul is a fairly "progressive" parish(Though thankfully from what I have seen, its rennovation went well). St. Agnes a few miles away is the center of the traditionalists/conservatives in the area.


6 posted on 05/31/2004 10:00:04 AM PDT by RFT1
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To: Snuffington; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; ...
The Rainbow Sash Alliance says that by wearing the sashes to Mass, it seeks to increase the awareness of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics in the church and calls for a dialogue with church leaders.

Can you imagine these people approaching Christ and calling on Him for "a dialogue" regarding homosexual sex! Here's the 'official' dialogue.

The official position of the Catholic Church on Gay Unions:
CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

7 posted on 05/31/2004 10:14:39 AM PDT by NYer (Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light! (2Cor 11:14))
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To: NYer
This is a result of the clerical liberal activism of the 1960s and 1970s. It helped create the idea of the American Catholic Church as primarily a vehicle for political protests and social causes. Mass is not the place for political displays advocating sodomy.

I have a better idea than blocking the Communion line. Hand the sash mafia an invoiced bill for $600,000,000 in legal costs and damages for aggravated sodomy in the church. They have a lot of nerve pushing their perversion at a Catholic Mass. If they keep it up one of them may end up on the receiving end of some displeasure from a sodomy rape victim.

8 posted on 05/31/2004 10:23:47 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Snuffington
"I apologize to those who feel we disrupted Mass,'' Pence said. "But the weakness of the bishops in responding to this very aggressive social movement has to be responded to with courage, even if it's from laymen.''

IMHO there is no need to apologize when doing the right thing, especially when protecting the Most Blessed Sacrament from sacrilege.

...this very aggressive social movement has to be responded to with courage, even if it's from laymen.

The time has come, that we laymen stand up and let our voices be heard, and I don't mean VOTF style. We need to: 1)pray and make sacrifices for our beloved Church, 2)Live our lives in accordance with orthodox Church teaching, 3)No longer tithe to our parishes and give to the annual diocesan appeals campaigns until such time that the situations are corrected and inline with orthodox Catholic teaching, and 4)when necessary, do as these men did.

9 posted on 05/31/2004 10:49:44 AM PDT by pipeorganman
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To: Snuffington
"Although some bishops of the Catholic Church have debated whether it is appropriate to deny Holy Eucharist to those opposed to church teachings,"

There is no (legitimate) place for debate here. Giving Holy Communion to those whom the priest knows are in grave sin is evil, since the priest is aware of basic Church teaching that to receive Communion "unworthily" makes one "guilty of profaning the body and blood of Our Lord", (I Cor. 11:27). And since Scripture is eminently clear that homosexuality is an abominal sin in God's eyes, and that it is not a natural occurance, well....

As time goes along I am seeing with more and more clarity that the "errors" permeating our Church are by no means introduced innocently or blindly. All these horrors we are witnessing right before our eyes simply have got to be the result of devious and purposeful planning.

"You will all fall away; for it is written, 'I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.' (Mark 14:27). After Jesus spoke these words He cautioned the Apostles to stay awake and be vigilent, as He went into the Garden to pray. But the Apostles slept as the enemies of the Church approached. Once again our leaders are sleeping as the "Enemy" comes and crucifies the Church. And just as the traitor Judas was an Apostle, a "prince" of the Church, you can be sure that other such traitors in the heirarchy are involved in the current betrayal and ravaging of our Holy Church.

12 posted on 05/31/2004 11:52:17 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: american colleen

"I was surprised to see that all of the letters in this week's National Catholic REGISTER supported taking NO action on the Holy Communion debate"

I wasn't surprised at all - they're only supporting the pope's example - when he handed out Holy Communion to pro-abortion protestant British prime-minister Tony Blair at the Vatican last February. Readers of the Register wouldn't want to be accused of "disobedience" or "a schismatic mentality" for opposing the actions of the holy father, would they?


13 posted on 05/31/2004 11:55:31 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: Land of the Irish

If you think handing out Holy Communion to sodomites is as bad it gets, take a look at some of these abuses:
http://www.traditio.com/nos.htm
Have you ever wondered why mass-murderers like Frances Kissling (Catholics for a free choice) and arch-heretics like Hans Kung are still welcome at Holy Communion - while Bishop Fellay remains "excommunicated"?


14 posted on 05/31/2004 12:28:54 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: RFT1

Is this Waekland's wreckovation?


15 posted on 05/31/2004 12:36:17 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pipeorganman
"But the weakness of the bishops in responding to this very aggressive social movement has to be responded to with courage, even if it's from laymen.''

Worth repeating. When are the shepherds? (Bishops)

16 posted on 05/31/2004 12:37:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Snuffington; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
"Those who object ask how we can disobey the bishop's authority,'' Pence said. "The bishop has abdicated his authority. That's the problem in the Catholic Church.

"Bishops have not protected the flock from this large predator movement of sexual dissent and homosexuality in the priesthood and in the church bureaucracy.''

We all sin. I wonder though whose sin is worse, the open apostate or the cleric who fails to confront them?

17 posted on 05/31/2004 12:38:16 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: seamole


~ PRAYER ~

St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle
 Be our protection against the wickedness
and snares of the devil;
May God rebuke him, we  humbly pray,
 and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
 by the power of God,
 Thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits
who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
 Amen
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18 posted on 05/31/2004 12:39:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: seamole

Wow, the laity is wrong for defending the truth of the Church?


19 posted on 05/31/2004 12:40:42 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I think kneeling at the rail might well be a better idea. That way the priest can just walk by.


20 posted on 05/31/2004 1:01:19 PM PDT by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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