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To: Maximilian
"Adoremus" wrote about how Vere's ex-priest homosexual mentor was a one-man wrecking crew destroying the Catholic liturgy all across the United States from his base in Canada.

Perhaps a little context is in order. 1) Vere wrote these comments before the details about his mentor's past became general knowledge. Vere was as surprised as anyone else. 2) As most North American canonists are aware, his mentor was more of a liturgical libertarian than a liturgical liberal. Back in the late 80's and early 90's when most canonists were arguing that Ecclesia Dei adflicta applied only to the Mass, Vere's mentor was the only canonist of any stature who argued that this position was incorrect and that the Holy Father had now expanded the indult to include the six other sacraments. Subsequently, he equipped Vere and about a half dozen other traditionalist canonists to argue their case within the canon law world. They were successful, and today the expanded permissions is taken for granted by most in the Church.
427 posted on 08/02/2004 1:53:49 PM PDT by GratianGasparri
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To: GratianGasparri
Vere wrote these comments before the details about his mentor's past became general knowledge. Vere was as surprised as anyone else.

Yes, but he was still the same person. We must assume that Vere didn't know about the sexual attacks on novice seminarians, but he did take his direction from a man who was in fact committing these attacks, and who was the kind of man who would do these things, since he did in fact do them. Moreover, his liturgical destruction was public knowledge. His visits to American diocese were well-publicized events. His private life may have been unknown, but no one could claim to be unaware of his public life.

As most North American canonists are aware, his mentor was more of a liturgical libertarian than a liturgical liberal.

Is this supposed to be a good thing? Sorry, but that is not traditional Catholicism by any means. Ultimately in the long run ,"liturgical libertarianism" is bound to be just as destructive as "liturgical liberalism," even if some small quotient of traditionalism is mixed in. And it causes more intellectual confusion. Better to have a clear distinction -- and a clear choice -- between tradition and liberalism.

450 posted on 08/02/2004 2:50:58 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: GratianGasparri
Subsequently, he equipped Vere and about a half dozen other traditionalist canonists to argue their case within the canon law world. They were successful, and today the expanded permissions is taken for granted by most in the Church.

VERY interesting. Do you have a cc. of the opinion?

461 posted on 08/02/2004 3:41:58 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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