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To: pascendi
Well if he was wrong about Fr. Huels, then it's more than possible he may be wrong in his book about the good people called traditional Catholics as well.

Well, I'm not going to argue with the first part of your comment. As one of his classmates, I warned him against taking up Huels' position -- especially against the well-known conservative canonist Fr. William Woestman.

Unfortunately, Vere was convinced that Huels was right in asserting that Ecclesia Dei applied to all seven sacraments, and that Woestman (who argued it only applied to the Mass) was wrong. The reason I advised Vere not to side with Woestman was two-fold: 1) I thought Woestman was right, and 2) Traditionalists are a cranky lot who would reject any association with Huels, even when he was advancing their position. Of course, neither of us had any knowledge of Huels' past at the time, but I just sensed that traddyland would be ungrateful for what Huels did to help his traditionalist students like Vere to advance the indult.

Although Huels has now been vindicated with regards to #1, as even Woestman has come over to Huels' side of the debate, my warning concerning #2 has more than come to pass. Had I been Vere, rather than defend an expanded use of the indult, I simply would have switched sides and backed Woestman and the conservatives.
452 posted on 08/02/2004 3:04:33 PM PDT by GratianGasparri
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To: GratianGasparri
Well, when y'all get done goofing off, maybe you could knock some heads together and get the traditional Latin Mass back into the parishes and get rid of this burden called the Novus Ordo Missae. That is, assuming that the prelates are going to keep doing nothing like they have been, and leaving the fate of the Church in your hands.

At any rate, don't forget to bring the Deposit of Faith with you when you go to work fixing everything for us. =)
453 posted on 08/02/2004 3:17:12 PM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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