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To: Unam Sanctam

Of course there is no interest in reconciling with the Pontiff as long as he denies Tradition. Let the Pope conform to Catholic practice and teachings first, then reconciliation with traditionalists will follow. It is not hateful to say such things. It is, in fact, merely belaboring the obvious. We don't worship popes. Catholics follow them--when they clearly teach the truth. But we must resist them when they don't. That is Theology 101. No pope who prays with animists and gives pectoral crosses to Anglican "archbishops" should be taken at face value, imho.


73 posted on 09/20/2004 5:29:37 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio; Unam Sanctam; sinkspur
No pope who prays with animists and gives pectoral crosses to Anglican "archbishops" should be taken at face value, imho.

And THERE you have it. IMHO!

The VOTF have their opinion, as do Cardinals Ratzinger and Mahony, Bishops Raymond Burke and Howard Hubbard, Sinkspur, myself and countless others. But ... we were not elected pope and neither were you! Karol Jozef Wojtyla was validly elected by the College of Cardinals.

The Fathers attest to the fact that the church of Rome was the central and most authoritative church. They attest to the Church’s reliance on Rome for advice, for mediation of disputes, and for guidance on doctrinal issues. They note, as Ignatius of Antioch does, that Rome "holds the presidency" among the other churches, and that, as Irenaeus explains, "because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree" with Rome. They are also clear on the fact that it is communion with Rome and the bishop of Rome that causes one to be in communion with the Catholic Church. This displays a recognition that, as Cyprian of Carthage puts it, Rome is "the principal church, in which sacerdotal unity has its source."

That remains true, despite your 'opinions'.

98 posted on 09/20/2004 6:51:25 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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