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To: kjvail
Harry Crocker

I have his Triumph: The Power and the Glory of the Catholic Church, and I like it a lot. However, there was one sentence that irritated me: "He [Pope John Paul II] saw that the old altar-and-throne model of Catholicism had died with the Habsburg Empire after World War I, though the Church had never conceded this." (pp. 420-1) True, perhaps, but why should the Church condone this?

Even as a non-Catholic, I for one will never give up on the "old altar-and-throne model."

55 posted on 10/08/2004 12:12:54 PM PDT by royalcello
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To: royalcello
True, perhaps, but why should the Church condone this?

I don't know that She has, other forms of government are tolerated as long as the Church is permitted to operate.

Even as a non-Catholic, I for one will never give up on the "old altar-and-throne model." There is one organization on Earth that is guaranteed by the Lord of History to never fade away, long after the liberal regimes of the modern world are relegated to a few pages in a history book She will be there to pick up the pieces, again...

56 posted on 10/08/2004 1:47:33 PM PDT by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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