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To: TradicalRC

Oh yes, modern Europe has such a great record on religious freedom for Christians. The Swedes have imprisoned a pastor who dares to speak out against homosexual activity. "Hate" speech laws are spreading like wildfire, outlawing expression of Christian doctrine. Buttiglione is denied political office solely because of his Catholic views. Sorry if I don't think the Europeans are in any position to judge the US on this matter.


46 posted on 12/12/2004 5:27:03 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam; TradicalRC

US, Everything you describe is deplorable, but I fail to see how TRC's remarks could possibly be construed as condoning that situation. The point is that even if American pluralism is preferable to European secularism, neither is ideal. Look at the campaign against Christmas in this country. Happy Holidays.


51 posted on 12/12/2004 5:33:50 PM PST by royalcello
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To: Unam Sanctam
All the result of democratic governments legistlating completely outside the principles of natural law. Or do you believe Sweden is a Catholic monarchy? LOL

Radical egalitarianism has acted to degrade the foundations of society in Europe faster than it has here, but it's coming.

63 posted on 12/12/2004 5:47:24 PM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Oh yes, modern Europe has such a great record on religious freedom for Christians.

Sarcasm noted. We apparently agree on Europe; my point was that America can't wait to be just like her.

278 posted on 12/13/2004 8:52:49 PM PST by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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