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To: Alex Murphy

Intersting comment:

DOOR: Would that be the 19th-century revivalist Charles Grandison Finney?

SPROUL: Finney, yeah. I don't think Finney was even semi-Pelagian.

DOOR: Don't you mean "Charles"?

SPROUL: Finney was an unabashed Pelagian.

DOOR: Uh, "Grandison"?

SPROUL: Most evangelicals haven't read him, and they're shocked when they read Finney's own statements because he was vehemently pro-Pelagianism.

DOOR: He was almost flat-out heretical in a number of ways, wasn't he?

SPROUL: I'd take out the "almost." Not only that, but he categorically rejected substitutionary atonement and justification by faith alone.

DOOR: Was he theologically wacko or just not very bright?

SPROUL: He was no dummy. He was trained in law and more or less self-trained in theology.


11 posted on 12/19/2004 8:31:40 AM PST by Gamecock (Removed in the spirit of mutual love and understanding.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Corin Stormhands; xzins
I read that the Billy Graham Museum has a display dedicated to the ministry of Chuck Finney, have you heard that?
12 posted on 12/19/2004 11:02:09 AM PST by Gamecock (Removed in the spirit of mutual love and understanding.)
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To: Gamecock
Fourth, regular guys don't get thanked in the liner notes to the latest Van Halen album, Van Halen III (seriously).

I'm sure there's a story there. I wonder who the Calvinist in Van Halen is/was. I know Gary Cheron is pro-life, but I don't know if he's a believer.

14 posted on 12/19/2004 4:11:07 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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