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To: shpirag; kosta50; eleni121

You really don't want to lead with your chin on this one, newbie.


23 posted on 01/28/2005 4:27:51 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50
Today we might know more on the fate of the Malainitsa church, but it might be helpful to know more on the Orthodox world so we can understand better.
I have read all kinds of comments and some of you are so quick to criticize other nationalities or religions. Hang tight because there is news. Sorry for the links provided because truth hurts.

Do you know that in Russia a woman dies every 40 minutes from domestic violence ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3601884.stm
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Svetlana endured her husband's persistent violence in silence, too ashamed to tell friends what she was going through. She says the police saw her suffering as a private, family affair.

"I called the police once when I thought I couldn't cope alone any more. I really needed help," she recalls. "But when they came - I was there in tears, and all my clothes were ripped - they just told me it was all my fault."

Svetlana is not alone. Police statistics show that one woman is killed by her husband or partner in Russia every 40 minutes. Women's groups believe the true figures are far higher.
Svetlana endured her husband's persistent violence in silence, too ashamed to tell friends what she was going through. She says the police saw her suffering as a private, family affair.

"I called the police once when I thought I couldn't cope alone any more. I really needed help," she recalls. "But when they came - I was there in tears, and all my clothes were ripped - they just told me it was all my fault."

Svetlana is not alone. Police statistics show that one woman is killed by her husband or partner in Russia every 40 minutes. Women's groups believe the true figures are far higher.

In one of Moscow's poorer suburbs, policeman Vladimir Vysotsky sets out on his daily beat. Vladimir says the vast majority of his work is dealing with "saucepan brawls" - police slang for domestic violence.

"It happens here almost every day," Vladimir says. "And why do most scandals start? Because the husband drinks. Why does he drink? Because he has problems with his job - and with money."

There are no refuges in Russia; nowhere safe for women like Irina to run to.

Over on the far smarter side of town, there are signs that some things are improving.
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And what about the craddle of Orthodoxism?

Greece - champion of abortion !

http://www.unborn.gr/unborn1/unborn/index.php

http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=311399

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Greece has the highest abortion rate, both when compared to other European countries and to the United States. The high number of abortions being carried out, both before and after marriage, and which can cause serious complications in women's health, is the main reason for the very low birth rate in Greece. According to abortion surgeons, 40% of the decrease in women's fertility is due to abortions. It is estimated that approximately 150,000 couples in Greece are unable to have children, because they have at least one abortion in their history. There are more than 250,000 abortions a year, 40,000 of which are carried out on young girls under the age of 16. Also, one third of the women are married, who would have not had abortions if they had the financial means to support a larger family.

This sadly impressive data was announced by Professor of Obstetrics-Gynecology at AUTh, Ioannis Bonnis, speaking at the 2nd Panhellenic Conference of the Greek Fertility and Impotency Association, which is being held in Thessaloniki.

During the 1980-1999 period, fertility in Greece has dropped by 41%, twice the percentage decrease of the rest of Europe, while the US had an increase of 14% of their fertility rate.
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That's why is not good to point fingers at others when your house is not that shiny inside.
29 posted on 01/28/2005 10:40:40 AM PST by shpirag
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