[Pio]

".....having lived in about 10 states, as many parishes, and having gone to three different Catholic Schools (and CCD) I was exposed to many different types of Catholic Priests, Sisters, and laity - certainly NOT all liberal"

Certainly all suscribed to the ideas set forth Dominus Iesus....they were all certainly on track. Now compare what you were taught with the statements from 1600 years ago, which you clearly rejected as foreign, as strange, as not matching understanding of Roman Catholicism.

Your candor and instant recognition of the difference is 100% spot on. I'm telling you that I agree with you. The old stuff from 1600 years ago no longer applies, there's no threat from New Rome, they love ya where you are at. Did you scan Dominus Iesus?

[Pio]

No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)

Therefore, these separated Churches and communities as such, though we believe they suffer from defects, have by no means been deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church".66 Section IV Dominus Ieusus August 6, 2000

These two paragraphs are saying quite different things (obviously.)

I can understand how a non-Catholic can be rattled by #1 and mollified by #2. Both however cannot be true. One is wrong.

[Pio]

No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)

Therefore, these separated Churches and communities as such, though we believe they suffer from defects, have by no means been deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church".66 Section IV Dominus Ieusus August 6, 2000

These two paragraphs are saying quite different things.

I can understand how a non-Catholic can be rattled by #1 and mollified by #2. Both however cannot be true.