Posted on 02/13/2005 1:31:30 PM PST by lindsey_123
1991 pic with JPII (sorry, I couldn't get it to display here)
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20050213/capt.sge.kif87.130205225648.photo00.photo.
Umm... if there were some conspiracy, their story would already be straight.
I wasn't thinking "after". I was thinking before, i.e., the 12th.
Compare and contrast:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1342459/posts
From the article at the top -
"Named Lucia de Jesus dos Santos when she was born on March 22, 1907, in recent years she suffered from blindness and deafness. "
vs. this quote from Spirit Daily at #20 -
"One of her last visitors was actor Mel Gibson, director of the 2004 movie "The Passion of The Christ." He met her at the convent in July 2004 and gave her a DVD of his movie."
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Mel got scammed. The nun in the picture with him six months ago was not blind, deaf nor in ill health.
lol... that's bizarre.
Just wondering if you could point me to where this idea comes from. Not questioning it, just looking for sources.
Seriously, there were only 12 apostles plus one Messiah bringing the total to 13. Judas was one of the 12.
Note that Fr. Malachi Martin died from injuries sustained in a "fall"......conveniently about a year before the release of what the Vatican purported to be the complete 3rd Secret. He had read the entire contents of the secret, and would surely have spoken out if he had lived until May of 2000. He had enough fame and "street credit" to get media attention (normal or underground) to be heard.
Of course - that was a coincidence.
Now Sr. Lucia is alleged to have died......with conflicting stories as to what ailed her. Death at her age is readily plausible, but also convenient. It "takes out" the only living seer - the definitive primary source. She is effectively eliminated as a living witness to the truth of Fatima.......be it by the hadn of God, or by the hand of man.
Of course, this is a coincidence.
Pope JPII is known to be aged and infirm, adn recently had a near brush with death. He lives because of the prayers of millions of people - Catholic and non-Catholic who prayed for him out of love. And because God is not quite done with his service - not just yet. And becuase he is believed to be under the special protection of Mary.
Many believe him to be the "pope of Fatima", as seen in the visions. all too many indicators point to this as being true - regardless of his many, many shortcomings in office, and the failure of his pontificate - on a human scale. he is a paradox - a stumbling block for liberal and conservative alike. All too many do not understand (and even I am guilty of this at times) that he was chosen not for his strengths, but for his weakness - like Peter. He has stumbled much........but so have we all.
But Fatima MUST be suppressed by the anti-church partisans within the church - the "superforce" as Martin called it. It must be hidden, ridiculed, and relegated to the dusty past - as was essentially done by Cardinals Sodano & Ratzinger in 2000.
WHY? because Fatima is about apostacy - widespread apostacy in the church. Defection of the clergy. The destruction of the faith of millions - and therewith theprobable loss of their souls to hell. It is about widespread punishment for unrepented sin - via manmade & natural diaster. It is about a nearly all encompassing spirutal blindness which smothers the mortal mind in its attempt to learn the truth about what is happening. A universal darkness of the mind, intellect, and conscience.
So, now.....what is to become of JPII? Assuming some manner of foul play for the moment......it is vey easy to "off" a 97 year old woman, who is a cloistered nun in a convent.
It is also very easy to "off" an 84 year old man who is suffering from multiple afflictions, and cannot stand or walk now. Or speak clearly. He is also totally dependant upon other to eat, bathe, dress, etc.
Since we are playing with possibilities here, he need not literaly be murdered. That much is unlikely. Remember - even one who has sold his soul knows full well that this man is under special protection from above. even one involved in inverted worship ackknowledges the opposing side, and its power. "no one can lay hands upon the annointed of God...and live".
But he could either be made to appear to have died, or forced/tricked/coerced into resigning against his will. A coordinated effort? Yes - but a readily acheivable goal. Cooperation of the secular media is easy.....those who own and control it would well be rid of JPII.
So, my prediction is a type of exile.......forced or otherwise. This also fits in very well with prophecies.
But there is one thing that thje enemies of JPII and the Christ whom he serves cannot fight against: Mary. She is the mother of Christ......mother of the Church.......and as the "new Eve", she is Mother of us all.
Ever see an angry mother defend her son?
Those who make war upon her Son's Church, and upon her spiritual children have another thing coming. They will be crushed, as she will crush the ancient serpent - their master.
And they will be blinded by the Glory of the Woman Clothed with the Sun.
I don't know if he is legitimate in the eyes of The Church, but the "prophet" Thomas Gibson ended his 2004 prophecies with what seems to be a legitimate message: "Prepare to see the work of the hand of God. The time is close for the release of judgments, and to some extent, has already begun. So pray and fast, seeking the ways of God through obedience, humility, and love.
vs "Sister Lucia" with Mel six months ago
No sale.
Yup. She was born in 1907.......he in 1920.
Where did you find that?
I will find you a FReepmail.
So am I. Her death at this time could be very significant for things to come. Or it could be it was just her time to go. It always amazed me that she kept going on for so long when the other two children who were participants in the visions were taken so many years ago, approx. 87 years.
Thank you for the links. Until the advent of the internet I did not understand WHY the secrets had not been revealed in their entirety...I did not know about the refusal to consecrate Russia...It is very disturbing. I will continue to read more.
While I cannot readily cite a source, she was told by Our Lady that she must remain here on earth..."for a time".
Also, she was supposedly promised that she would see "the beginning of the end".
Translate that as you will.
bttt
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