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To: jer33 3

But Jesus told the thief he would be with him in paradise before he died, therefore, he was saved at that point in time, not after Christ died. Also, the thief obviously died before Christ was buried and resurrected, and since we are baptized into Christ's death and raised like his resurrection (Romans 6:3-4), that baptism could not have been in effect until after the resurrection.


512 posted on 06/10/2005 9:38:28 AM PDT by jkl1122
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But Jesus told the thief he would be with him in paradise before he died, therefore, he was saved at that point in time, not after Christ died. Also, the thief obviously died before Christ was buried and resurrected, and since we are baptized into Christ's death and raised like his resurrection (Romans 6:3-4), that baptism could not have been in effect until after the resurrection.

Do you not see that being this technical with the mechanics of salvation (how would you even know such things ?) ... is veering toward the very legalism that Paul was so striving to keep his readers from ?
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, ...

532 posted on 06/10/2005 10:11:47 AM PDT by Quester (When in doubt ... trust God!)
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