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To: kosta50

Certainly, reconciliation with the Orthodox is a noble end and I'm all for it. Yet, I think that the Orthodox Church in general is ill-prepared to engage in the self-examination and reflexion necessary to achieve reconciliation. Suspicion runs deep in the Orthodox Church and in spite of the ecumenical overtures made by individual jurisdictions, her claim to be the One True Catholic Church remains unabated. I'm skeptical that any Orthodox prelate has the courage to make decision that goes against his Church's self-understanding. Although reunion is highly desirable and work toward reunion needs to continue, we should not feel as if it has taken place already. Courage, patience, perseverance, and lots of institutional introspection are still needed to bring about reunion.

-Theo


5 posted on 05/29/2005 8:55:26 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org)
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To: Teófilo; kosta50
Catholics engaging in 'self-examination and reflexion' have given us such later day innovations such as the immaculate conception, purgatory, indulgences, celibate clergy and an infallible human being. I point this out to sjow thatt he Orthodox have not diverged from doctrine it is the West that has diverged.
6 posted on 05/29/2005 9:09:34 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Teófilo
Yet, I think that the Orthodox Church in general is ill-prepared to engage in the self-examination and reflexion necessary to achieve reconciliation.

How is it related to the issue of Filioque - the actual reason for the schism? Politically correct self-"examination" cannot answer theological questions.

64 posted on 05/30/2005 5:50:11 AM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: Teófilo; Destro; kosta50

Theofilo:

What exactly, at least in a theological or ecclesiological sense are we to be introspective about? I ask this sincerely and the very fact that I need to ask this question may be all the proof you need to back up your assertion that we Orthodox are ill equipped to be introspective in this area. In theology and ecclesiology, except for the jurisdictional confusion in the diaspora and the recent understanding with the Monophysites, we haven't changed anything since the last Ecumenical Council which purports to be anything beyond disciplinary matters.


66 posted on 05/30/2005 6:07:56 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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