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To: balch3
And when you get right down to it, NOBODY knows what might happened in the last moment before a person's death. They could very well have accepted Christ. We don't know that they did, but we don't know that they didn't either. I think we'll be surprised when we get to heaven at who IS and who ISN'T there.

Not necessarily -- Acts of the Apostles 11:1-11 -- in particular verse 3. Here Ananias is accused by Saint Peter of "lying to the Holy Spirit" and that "Satan had filled his [Ananias'] heart".

Basically, Ananias and his wife Sapphira both dropped dead in front of Saint Peter. I would not say they are not in heaven, but most likely they did not make it because of the "deceit of the Holy Spirit".

A lesser story is that of Saint Padre Pio -- Italian monk and Priest who lived from 1887 to 1968. He once had a woman who asked about a countess or baroness who had died -- as he was known to have gifts about knowing spiritual things (he predicted to the Pope John Paul in the late 1940's that he would become Pope when the Polish priest visited him).

At any rate, this countess or baroness had passed away, and this person wanted to know if she went to heaven.

Saint Padre Pio responded to the woman that the baroness or countess had gone straight to hell.

The woman was supposed to relay this to other rich women who had asked her to ask about this for them.

She was at first reluctant to relay this, but was urged to by a friend of Padre Pio (Mary Pyle).

When the woman relayed the message, it had a very positive effect on the women who heard -- they knew the sinful life of the countess/baroness, and they immediately amended their lives for the better.

St. Padre Pio and St. Jean-Marie Vianney are very interesting studies of their own.

20 posted on 07/22/2005 1:13:13 AM PDT by topher (God bless our troops and protect them)
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To: topher

I stand corrected, 2 Macc.

Boy, it has been a bit since I read those two.


56 posted on 07/22/2005 5:55:19 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: topher
A lesser story is that of Saint Padre Pio -- Italian monk and Priest who lived from 1887 to 1968. He once had a woman who asked about a countess or baroness who had died -- as he was known to have gifts about knowing spiritual things (he predicted to the Pope John Paul in the late 1940's that he would become Pope when the Polish priest visited him).

I have never heard that story before. Where did you read or hear about that?

116 posted on 07/23/2005 1:07:04 PM PDT by GipperGal
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