And still more on the Rules of Procedure:
Discussion seems to center (again) on half vs. two-thirds votes. Top left
of page 13 in Section 10; the amendment is to strike the two-thirds
requirement - defeated 309-668. The rule as originally proposed passed
656-320 without my ever discovering what its subject was.
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The next paragraph - paragraph 4 - amendment proposed to delete. I think
this would limit the two-thirds requirement for any non-constitutional
chane proposals coming out of the Church Council. Amendment to strike the
paragraph failed 355-631.
Paragraph 4 failed 646-333 (required two-thirds)
(It's almost 11:00 and they're tired and calling the question almost as
soon as the issue comes up - moving fast ... 8^) )
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Paragraph 5 - motion to amend by deleting the paragraph to keep control
of
rosters in synods (I suppose as opposed to the secretary of the church
keeping the official rosters) failed 333-644.
All previous questions called - Paragraph 5 failed 649-337
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Paragraph 6 - motion to amend by striking failed 386-601.
Vote on Paragraph 6 failed 616-364
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Part 18, page 20, section 1 -
Motion to amend by adding "registered visitors" after "official visitors"
to the list of types of people attending the assembly and able to speak at
hearings on issues.
Secretary Almen was asked to explain the rationale for the existing
limits.
He smiled, which usually doesn't happen until the last day of the
assembly,
which provided a light note in this late night. He explained that
hearings
in previous assemblies had allowed visitors to speak and voting members
had
expressed some problems with being unable to ask their questions and make
their comments because so much of the discussion time was taken up by
visitors and official representaties.
Rule passed 897-72.
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Agenda, page 3, paragraph 3 - language relative to departing from the
agenda.
Motion to amend to add that chair may call any non-actionable items at the
chair's discretion - things like reports, greetings, etc. Objections were
that the chairs hands would be tied. One impassioned speech about the
assembly always being able to appeal, and about trusting the leadership
elected by the body.
Amendment failed 105-869
Paragraph 3 passed 902-67
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Motion for the order of adoption of business
Plenary session 2 will begin at 8:45 (30 minutes later than scheduled,
which got applause ... )
Amendment that all quasi-committee-of-the-whole sessions where the
sexuality issues are discussed as well as the session when the votes take
place be closed to all but voting members and advisors.
Bishop Hanson asked the house to determine whether the proposed amendment
was germane and it failed 784-195
924-45 agenda was adopted.
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Co-chairs of the local arrangements committee were introduced and
applauded.
Miriam L. Woolbert ELCA Department for Communication from the 2005
Churchwide Assembly in Orlando