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To: jec1ny

Thank you for your detailed response. I have to take issue with some of the things you have said, however. Over all, it seems to me that you are attempting to defend the systematic dismantling of the Roman Rite liturgy as it has occurred over the past 80 to 95 years. You and I will probably not soon come to agreement over this story, however. Please know that the important thing here is the defense of apostolic tradition, and the good of the Church, neither one of which are being protected as the current state of affairs descends into ever more debase and profane absurdities.

Right now I'm out of time but I'll come back soon if you would like to go into some detail on these things. You have gone out on a limb accusing me of "error," and being "woefully ignorant." If you are trying to get a heated reaction from me, it isn't working, nor will it.


10 posted on 10/18/2005 2:59:02 PM PDT by donbosco74
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To: donbosco74
"You have gone out on a limb accusing me of "error," and being "woefully ignorant."

I based my opinion on what you wrote. Thats the only evidence that I had to make any judgments. Admittedly that is not a great deal upon which to base such a broad judgment, and so I will withdraw my comments and reserve judgment pending more evidence. However I flatly reject most of what you wrote regarding the history of the so called Tridentine Rite. It is factually erroneous.

"If you are trying to get a heated reaction from me, it isn't working, nor will it"

I am not. And to the extent that such was the impression conveyed I apologize. I am not a great fan of the modern rite, but I have little time or patiance for those who attack its validity or legality. By claiming that the proscription's contained at the end of the Bull QUO PRIMUM TEMPORE apply to the person of the Pope himself you are straying dangerously close to heresy. The afore mentioned bull was an essentially disciplinary document. And no Pontiff can bind his successors on any matter of discipline. Perhaps you did not intend to communicate that view. You are perfectly within your right to express as a matter of private opinion, that the reform of the liturgy was carried out in a poor manner, and that the result was (and is) manifestly inferior to that which it was intended to replace. And I would be happy to concur in that opinion. But the Pope has final authority over the liturgy of the western rite.
11 posted on 10/19/2005 12:53:06 AM PDT by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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