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To: pro610
"We now have thousands of Little Soren Kierkegaard"

You throw Kierkegaard's name around like you knew what you were talking about. Kierkegaard wrote against the sterile rationalistic Enlightenment thinking that permeated the Danish state church with its Deist theology. His writings put transcendence back into the state theology. His concept of "leap of faith" was meant to move people from thinking you could be born into Christianity. Just because you were baptized as a child did not make you a Christian, there had to be a crises; a distance between one's present state and the "saved" state. That's why he proposed that it was easier for a pagan to be saved than for a "christian". Here is a quote from a review of a biography of Kierkegaard that might peak your curiosity to learn more about his thinking before you use him in a negative sense.

"The larger problem with Kierkegaard’s work was its severity: he offered a stern rebuke and an even sterner challenge to an entire religious establishment. In Denmark, baptism in the state church had become a matter-of-course rite of citizenship. Indeed, for Kierkegaard, “Christendom” had become a mistaken baptizing of nearly everything: Where real Christianity called for a transformation of one’s whole life, Christendom simply “christened” everything—giving it a new name and leaving it otherwise unchanged. “What Christianity wanted was chastity—to do away with the whorehouse. The change is this, that the whorehouse remains exactly what it was in paganism, lewdness in the same proportion, but it has become a ‘Christian’ whorehouse
24 posted on 10/15/2005 8:14:19 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
Dont take this as an insult but your knowledge of Kierkegaard seems to be limited.
If you are going to research Kierkegaard from a Christian viewpoint you must come to the conclusion that Kierkegaard,s existentialist philosophy is unChristian and negative.

Here is a better example of what Kierkegaard says.
He says "After all the world is absurd,and everything we do is absurd anyway,why not do the most absurd thing imaginable? and what can be more absurd than believe in God?So why not? The atheist don,t have any reason to believe in anything else,or really disbelieve in that.
So we may as well Go for It!

According to Kierkegaard since there is no objective reality upon which we can rely we must make a "leap of faith" and in this leap of faith there is a personal experience which is valid because the truth is the truth as it relates to me.

It,s obvious that Kierkegaard did not believe in being Born Again as in John 3:3 and John 3:7 because he replaced it with his "leap of faith" philosophy.
John3:3
Jesus answered him,
Truly,truly,I say to you
unless one is born anew,
he cannot see the kingdom of Heaven

John 3:7
Do not marvel that I said to you,
You musy be born anew.

So when I see certain Church Growth Movement leaders using the words Leap of faith it concerns me as it should anyone.

Peter Drucker,s influence on the CGM is easily exposed and Peter Drucker is on record calling Soren Kierkegaard his mentor.
Robert Schuller Bill Hybels and Rick Warren all praise Drucker and call him their mentor or very influential person in their life.

I,m not necessarily claiming guilt by association but
there are certain pattern,s here and it,s foolish not be on guard.
26 posted on 10/16/2005 9:52:39 AM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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