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To: magisterium
it won't be long before this mess is dragged into the light, like a Dracula, and run-through with a stake to the heart

I truly hate to be a pessimist, because hope is a theological virtue and despair is a sin, but I think you're assuming that people are not already compromised in the area of sexual morality, and I'm sorry to say that that assumption is unwarranted. There's a reason why something like 30% of Internet traffic is devoted to the delivery of pornography. And I've just recently read an article that the new video Ipod is being targeted as a delivery vehicle for porn as well. This is happening because there's a market for it.

I've been around FR since the days of the Clinton impeachment, and we commonly asked ourselves during that time, "Where's the outrage?" It never really materialized, except among a few of us who saw the implications of what he and Hitlery were practicing. It certainly comes as no surprise that kids took up his example, and there has been an explosion in their practicing oral sex.

The attitudes of the sexual revolution have won the day, and I don't think the toothpaste can be coaxed back into the tube. But, interestingly enough, this whole idea was tried in the early days of the Russian revolution, advocated by people like Alexandra Kollontai. Even the Commies had to eventually encourage people to practice more sexual continence because of the social chaos which resulted. So we already know this won't work, and of course the Catholic Church has predicted that it wouldn't, because sexual "liberation" denies the ontology of the act itself. To deny a thing's ontology is to live in a delusional state, and that can only be maintained until the consequences become undeniable.

That, by the way, is why the Catholic Church is "the enemy" in the eyes of the cultural elites, and the whole propaganda apparatus is being brought to bear to discredit her, and to demoralize her adherents.

Paul Weyrich used to post on FR in the old days, and when he counselled withdrawing from the fray and "tending one's own garden", I told him to stop whining and get back on the horse. (I didn't know it was him at the time, or I would have been more respectful.) These days, I'm thinking he was right. By all means, let's do what we can to bring the message to the public square, to warn people of the consequences of what they've chosen to embrace, but let's not be discouraged when that message falls on deaf ears. People don't tend to learn from reasoning, from history, or even from their own personal past experiences. They don't seem to learn much at all, in my experience. So I think the most important thing we can do is keep the candle burning next to the tabernacle (yes, I'm invoking Brideshead Revisited here) until the storm passes and they begin to come to their senses.

I'd also recommend reading E. Michael Jones' Libido Dominandi, subtitled "Sexual Liberation and Political Control", for a discussion of how we came to this pass and the forces at work to advance this destructive agenda.

8 posted on 11/07/2005 9:56:39 AM PST by neocon (Be not afraid!)
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To: neocon

Bump to a great post


10 posted on 11/07/2005 10:10:11 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: neocon

I think I made it clear in the body of my post that I share your pessimism. But, if even the remnant of morally responsible adults "read and heed" the implications of this decision, there are enough people still out there to wither this court's decision in the public eye. Millions of people fall into this category.

I agree that, failing something virtually miraculous, the long-term outlook for things in this country is pretty dismal. But perhaps this decision is being held out in front of us as something of a "last chance" to at least *try* to reverse the juggernaut of societal sin brought on by our own inaction. It seems to me that we have to at least *try* to do something. Defeatism is a self-fulfilling outlook on life.


11 posted on 11/07/2005 10:34:59 AM PST by magisterium
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