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To: ~Matahari
Us Catholics must be pretty dumb to actually write the New Testament and then wait centuries to blatantly contradict our own Scriptures!

On an unrelated note --and this is just a general observation, not a response to anything Matahari has posted -- has anyone noticed how many Protestants tend to demean Mary in their effor to oppose the Church? Saying things like how Mary was just a vessel to give birth to Christ, or that even Jesus didn't show her respect. As if Christ, who was the perfect and sinless man, would ever violate the Commandment to honor one's parents.
102 posted on 12/05/2005 8:18:53 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
Please note that we did have one protestant suggesting that the Immaculate Conception is a very Lutheran sort of doctrine.

So they're not all hurling insults at us.

105 posted on 12/05/2005 8:21:28 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Conservative til I die
As if Christ, who was the perfect and sinless man, would ever violate the Commandment to honor one's parents.

When Jesus on the cross entrusted his mother to the beloved Disciple He was entrusting her to the Church. "Behold, your mother" is his command not just to St. John but to the faithful of every age. Therefore, the Fourth Commandment surely applies to us to give proper honor and respect to the Theotokos.

From the same Lutheran who posted the hymn much earlier in this discussion.

118 posted on 12/05/2005 8:33:08 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Conservative til I die

weak men fear a strong woman


162 posted on 12/06/2005 3:17:08 AM PST by bornacatholic
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