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USCCB reviews Brokeback Mountain ["The universal themes of love and loss ring true. ..."]
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops ^ | Dec 12 2005 | usccb

Posted on 12/14/2005 11:22:00 PM PST by Antioch

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To: voiceinthewind

That is a standard response used to rebuff criticism. " Oh,but you are the only one who is complaining..." Odds are this is an absolute falsehood. One should always press the point and not accept this ( generally disingenuous) tactic.
Were it true, what difference would that make, you might ask. The peer pressure argument has gotten us where we are today as failing civilization.


61 posted on 12/15/2005 8:12:41 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Darkwolf377

>>>>Your last line is already wrong, though. It's breaking records for per-screen ticket sales, and it was such a relatively low budget that it will probably make money. Women will see this; they don't need straight men to see it.

Its only being shown on a handful of screens in the most gay activist communities. Of course its "per screen" sales are high. Try to show it somewhere outside the homosexual community and see how it does. Despite all the advertising and publicity, it will tank.

patent


62 posted on 12/15/2005 8:31:39 AM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: nonsumdignus
We have Apostolic visitations of seminaries.
What we need is an Apostolic visitation of the offices and staff of the USCCB.
63 posted on 12/15/2005 8:39:35 AM PST by Phx_RC (God bless the good holy bishops, may God have mercy on the other bishops.)
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To: Darkwolf377
I have no interest in seeing this movie, but frankly I don't think it's that big a deal--seems more like one of those movies that would die a quick death if people against homosexuality would just ignore it.

Bzzt! Wrong-o. This movie was made to get awards. That's why Ang Lee was made director. It won't make back its budget until after the Oscars. Even then, it'll be nip and tuck with overseas receipts and DVD and cable TV rights.

64 posted on 12/15/2005 8:43:10 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: patent; Darkwolf377

It should be noted that Brokeback Mountain didn't just release in 5 cities. It released in 5 theaters. That's it. Just 5. Given the targeted marketing and the size of the markets, I don't anticipate it doing well in wide release. I'm not sure that it will.


65 posted on 12/15/2005 8:55:24 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Mr. K
You can't even claim your girlfriend dragged you to see it- if she is able to, then you are too gay for a girlfriend.

ROTFL!

66 posted on 12/15/2005 8:57:37 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: backhoe
Look at this ad they are going to try to run in the "red states" to trick people into seeing the movie.

The same strategy and marketing spin was used for the horribly acted movie "Far from Heaven." As a tipoff, it too received a phalanx of five star reviews and Acadamy Award hysteria. Sure enough, it turned out to be a screed glorifying gay sex, family adandonment, and trashing the values of the 50s by equating homophobia with racism. It was pathetic. And of course, the USCCB reviewers LOVED this "insightful look at the tensions simmering below the facade of what would appear to be the ideal nuclear family..." hoping that with our "sophisticated" contemporary perspective, we would consider and hopefully reject our own prejudices."

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67 posted on 12/15/2005 9:01:36 AM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: AmishDude

"It won't make back its budget until after the Oscars."

The costs have already been recouped from foreign sales. The domestic gross will be pure profit.


68 posted on 12/15/2005 9:29:05 AM PST by Coronal
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To: Antioch

>> While the actions taken by Ennis and Jack cannot be endorsed, <<

Doncha love it when truth slips out?


69 posted on 12/15/2005 9:38:32 AM PST by dangus
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To: Antioch

Doncha wish you could ping Papa Benedict? Something like:

"Accidental Self-Outing Ping!"


70 posted on 12/15/2005 9:41:14 AM PST by dangus
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To: AmishDude

Syriana had a very comparable initial outing. It will gross about $25 million when all is said in done. It's market is much, much, much less confined to LA-SF-NY. Same goes for "Punch Drunk Love" which eventually made $17 million.

I'd compare it even more to "Melinda and Melinda," which went on to make less than $4 million.

Drudge compares it to other "Live Action" releases. Which is silly, because live action movies have never used such a release schedule, except for strictly micromarket ("art house") releases. Only Disney has ever done such releases. Compare Bareback Mountin' to Pocahontas, which made $450,000 per theater on six screens, the Lion King, which made $793,000, or even the spectuacular failure of Anastasia, which made $120,000.


71 posted on 12/15/2005 9:47:45 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
same accidental outing in this opening line of the review:

Brokeback Mountain arrives at last,

72 posted on 12/15/2005 9:47:55 AM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Antioch

"The universal themes of love and loss ring true."

What kind of sicko considers one night of anal exploitation to be "love"?


73 posted on 12/15/2005 9:48:30 AM PST by dangus
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To: Antioch

Annie Proulx. Horrible writer. threw one of her books across the room after the line "his eyes were the color of plastic"


74 posted on 12/15/2005 9:49:58 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Antioch

The fact that the movie makes anal exploitation resemble love is precisely why it is so God-damned evil.

(And I'm not swearing; I mean that as I wrote it.)


75 posted on 12/15/2005 9:50:13 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Dunno if the movie itself can accurately be described as 'God-damned", but making it would seem to be the Grave Matter of which mortal sins are made ... IMO, viewing it likewise might also be an occasion of sin (in that it might lead one toward an approving view of sodomite "relationships").


76 posted on 12/15/2005 9:58:57 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dangus

OpusatFR on post 46 hit the nail on the head, and I agree. This would have been the only legitimate Catholic response to the confusion of love with sexuality. Christianity DOES have something vital to say about this matter-too bad the USCCB doesn't know what it is. It could have written a powerful and beautiful reply using JPII's "Theology of the Body." (this cultural phenomenon is precisely why he wrote it)


77 posted on 12/15/2005 10:06:41 AM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Phx_RC
We have Apostolic visitations of seminaries. What we need is an Apostolic visitation of the offices and staff of the USCCB.

I'd much prefer resurrecting the former Office of the Inquisition and place the Hammer of Heretics at its helm. Better yet, place any SSPX priest at its helm, and the Hammer of Heretics (Saint Bernard of Clairvaux) as its patron.

78 posted on 12/15/2005 10:41:18 AM PST by nonsumdignus (Is Sainthood your Goal?)
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To: dangus
Doncha wish you could ping Papa Benedict?

I sent a copy of the review via e-mail to the Pope. I hope it gets there.

79 posted on 12/15/2005 11:21:09 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: AmishDude

But that's normal for a release of this kind. We can deny it all we want, but the critical acclaim is going to make this a decent box office performance. The important thing is that that doesn't really matter much.


80 posted on 12/15/2005 11:36:22 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic who never, ever says "Happy Holidays")
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